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StoreTags: psytrance, idm

Author: vaz on November 28 2006

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--> Hello.

Just found this site and it seems pretty neat. I keep journals other places but usually nobody wants to hear about me trying to make music, so I'll post that kind of stuff here.

I'm somewhat just starting with music production. I've been playing around with FL and more recently Cubase, making some little psytrance-like tracks mostly and playing around with some concepts from dnb or breakcore/up-tempo idm (whatever you want to call it, who knows).

I like to trade tips with anyone regardless of what kind of music they're into, but if you happen to produce anything like psytrance/idm/dnb/breakbeats leave me a comment, I'll check out your blog.

kbye

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11/28/06 + monkvolcano

hello vaz. nice to meet you..

I'm not trying to come off as some great producer when i say this or anything (i swear).. but do yourself a favor and don't worry about genres. It seems limiting to me.

i'm sure one could argue otherwise, but that's just my view.

that being said, if there is a particular sound you are trying to achieve, or a concept you are having trouble grasping, if you pose an intelligent question in the forums, I can promise you will get some valuable replies.

good luck sir.

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edited: Nov 28 2006 + vaz

I don't generally worry about genres while making music, but it can be useful for talking about music. It's hard to communicate exact sounds using words, so if what I like to produce has some similarities to well-known genres, it can be more informative to talk about them that way. I do know the advice you're trying to give there; don't worry, that's not how my brain works when I'm actually making music. Although in some cases I would have to disagree.

Thanks, I'll have a look at the forums in the morning.

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11/28/06 + j_chot

all my production knowledge/years seems to point to this, reguardless of genre:

good production is about making good *sounds*,(hits, patches, etc...) above everything else.
be unique is #2,
getting a good ear for a mix is prolly 3.
DON'T USE SHITTY SAMPLES/SYNTHS, NO EFFECT/FILTER KNOWN TO MAN CAN REMOVE "SUCK" FROM A SOUND SOURCE.
and structure is probably 5th, keep it tidy, do what fits.

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11/28/06 + monkvolcano

cool.. your response was reassuring, it seems lots of musicians (especially electronic musicians) pursue emulating some really specific genre so much that you end up with a lot of cookiecutter bullshit music.. glad that you are not about that.

to me composition is #1(and i don't mean form neccesarily).. then the sounds..then the mix..

i guess if you are trying to produce something that yer average joe will like, then focus on sounds and mix first and foremost. people are spoiled by million dollar mixes if you ask me, and many times, they will not give something the time of day unless it has that sparkly "perfect" mix sheen to it.

and as far as being unique goes, i don't think you should have to 'try' to be unique. If it is something you really put yourself into, it will be unique no matter what you do. like thumb prints don't ya know.

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edited: Nov 28 2006 + vaz

j_chot: I see what you mean. It's also a matter of taste in a sense, a lot of bands that I really love actually sort of suck at their instruments. There's a fair bit of "suck" in what they're playing, but the structure and uniqueness make it endearing. But I also agree - usually there's no good excuse for hearing that suckiness in electronic music.

monk: Yeah, people are spoiled. Quite a bit with electronic music, but they're getting a lot more spoiled with all kinds of music. Nirvana, for instance, was rather crude and abrasive live but one of the likely reasons they got huge was the great production done on Nevermind that made that crude/abrasive sound a lot more palatable. Similar artists were relegated to underground fame as they were a bit too "harsh". I agree completely with you on uniqueness. There's no way not to be unique... but trying to be someone else is just going to get you stuck.

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11/28/06 + pierlu001

hey! I want to be the aphex tiwn! wha'ts worng with that????

ahaha joking... i second all that's been said. expecially the sound/mixing ear advice

welcome abroad. p.

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11/28/06 + bsr

vaz said: "I don't generally worry about genres while making music, but it can be useful for talking about music. "

words of wisdom, that line could've ended a fair few arguments on this board!

welcome.

11/28/06 + bbwax

bsr said: "

vaz said: "I don't generally worry about genres while making music, but it can be useful for talking about music. "

words of wisdom, that line could've ended a fair few arguments on this board!

welcome."

god yes. someone please make that a sticky or add it to the FAQ.

hello and welcome, vaz.

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11/28/06 + energygiant

omghi2u vaz

and get some hardware.........n00b

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11/28/06 + monkvolcano

add it to the FAQ.. lol

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11/28/06 + Psyingo

q: are genres important?

a: only when discussing if IDM is better than IDM

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11/28/06 + mlbot

monkvolcano said: "add it to the FAQ.. lol"

Added to the FAQ

q: do you artists find genre's stifling?
a: the only stifling genre is fongtcore.

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11/28/06 + mlbot

Sorry Psy, already had two IDM jokes.

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11/28/06 + tbeals79

welcome.
you'll like it here.

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11/28/06 + GregTArtZ

hey man, wtf up bro! welcome

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