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EM411 vs Other Social Music Sites
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Rant forthcoming...
I've seen and participated in a few of the community music sites out there (albeit on a limited basis), yet they all left something to be desired. To me, EM411 is the only one that seems to put a majority of the focus on users rather than jerk itself off all over the users (MySpace and PureVolume come to mind).
As I see it, EM411 does this in three distinct and very useful ways: releases, blogs and forums. Each are on the home page, and everyone is showcased. It really keeps the concentration of "social wealth" spread evenly across its users and not held up in the power of a few (yet it also "rewards" popular blogs in the center column). Compare this to a site like MySpace where artists get popular by spamming and running bots and scripts to comment on other profiles and to build up their friend count to a tipping point where they might get noticed.
Yet I don't see any of those bad trends on EM411. Most users are genuinely interested in hearing new music and enjoy giving feedback and participating in the community. Why? I think it's the difference between wanting to make music and wanting to get famous by making music. The latter is so prevalent on the larger social music sites - the "what can you do for me?" mentality. People only want "friendships" because it increases their friend count, which, in turn, may help them get "discovered." It's deplorable, and it's why I've largely stayed away from online social sites even though I spend a lot of time on computers and the internet - hell, I even work on teh interwebs for a living.
And just in case you need some evidence as to the sheepish mentality of a site like MySpace: link
But I digress. Thanks for listening...
Cheers,
The Stringed Theory
p.s. Can anyone clue me into old "versions" or "designs" of EM411 and how things have changed to what the site is now? | |
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01/10/07
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lunatinker
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lunatinker
also, are you a programmer or a musical personage?
ok hi and thanks!
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lunatinker
also, are you a programmer or a musical personage?
You're right about the good sides of this place. no better. but you use myspace for what its for and its not for a close-knit group of friends to chat idly about dildo-machines. well..... maybe it is.
I see the bad trends here at 3m411 as cut features (mixit was all I wanted)
also, the menu item "patches" was brilliant and I miss it.
I see big turdy terds when I think of poorly chosen google ads now on everything here.
there are twenty-thousand clones of em411:
link link link
some of the clones have features I miss from here, and they all give me the willies.
Its nice to be monkeys in a research lab, unless you get the bad needle or know you're being used.
01/10/07
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make
modern life is all about celebrity culture: being famous for doing or contributing nothing.
check out how the vast majority of tv is now shitty cheap-to-make 'reality shows' where they get desperate-to-be-famous idiots and allow them to play up to the camera.
websites, like most other things, pander to this. MySpace is like hangingout at McDonalds with a bunch of 13 year olds: The place is a shithole that needs pulling down rather than rebuilding. The food is terrible and makes your skin explode in rebellion. The conversation sucks, is self absorbed and is all about bitching.
here has its faults but the positives far far far outweight the negatives.
Welcome to our home.
01/10/07
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lunatinker
I have not been approached here for any professional or job offers.
but yet on myspace, I have several times. It is working for that for me.... I cannot complain.
em411 is a knowledge-bank but seems closed-off (both for the better and for the worse in different ways).
ah. crap. it is what it is. i like every-stuffs.
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stringedthry
@lunatinker
Re: Archive.org... doh! I should have thought of that.
A programmer? Hardly, though I do dabble.
And good point about opportunities @MySpace. You definitely reach a broader audience with a larger network.
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AtlusZero
No fame here. None needed. Feedback and friends 
01/10/07
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oscar
yeah... I think people here have mostly figured out that music as business is fickle at best... it may be more about the experience and community for most people here... em411 hacks music
01/11/07
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electrodan
It is good stuff maeng, you've found a diamond among roughs. I could clue you in on 1 older version tho it would be a nostalgic effort I'm not particularly prepared to make right now... lets say its good now, its been great, it'll be greater yet still. Neat thing is, you're a part of that effort now.
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jdg
im here for the gifs
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yghartsyrt
wow you never looked better mister
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astroid
what i saw and fell in love with about this place 2 years ago and have continued loving about it has been the wealth of talent and intelligence here. everywhere you look, someone is fervently exploring their own little musical island, everyone's on some kind of trip, hunting for some sound or idea or aesthetic. getting to know people through their art and hearing it develop is amazing. it seems that every couple of weeks someone comes along and makes a piece of music that shocks and suprises me.
edited: Jan 11 2007
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monkvolcano
this has been your daily affirmation with assstroid.
01/11/07
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lematt
everybody is on myspace ! not on em411. and if you organize parties or concerts, it's easy to catch famous artists/DJ's directly on myspace.
but I recognize there is a "sheepish" Myspace spirit ... and I hate all these "pimp my space" and "glitter my space" sites and attitudes...
em411 is beautifull compared to myspace ! and it's more idm/electronica oriented than popular communities like Myspace. But I'm french, and there is french people (and my friends) on myspace... so we can speak french and it's pleasant sometimes. it's tiring to speak english
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tooth
Myspace is larger and caters for everybody, so there's gonna be a lot of shit. But it's there to be used as you wish... I've never felt like I've been spunked on and I like surfing over people's profiles but I'm only on there once a week whereas I come on here everday. I come on here to associate with intelligent, funny, creative people who know what a VCO is and there aren't that many of us, certainly not where I live.
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