Electronic Music 411 - the cult of Dawkins -

EM411.com
Electronic Music Production, MP3's, Live Shows, Blogs and Community

Share your music and get feedback.

datathinner's emID

Houston, Texas, USA

Message me

View my emID

the cult of Dawkins

Store

Author: datathinner on January 21 2007

Viewed 3264 times. 5 people liked this blog. You can rate it below if you haven't already.

People who enjoyed reading this: everamzah, astroid, Otterfan, PAWEL, sAMsKi

--> I've just been spending some time on Mr. Dawkins' website, and reading some of the comments left by the people who frequent the site. interesting, to say the least, that many of the comments left by these site regulars are just as flagrantly "superior-smelling" as the groups they attack, mockingly known amongst them as "fundies".

allow me to explain myself a bit: i haven't read anything by Dawkins, i'm mildly aware of his stance on certain topics, and this isn't any kind of polemic against the man himself. rather, i would like to examine his followers --- the cult of Dawkins.

such metaphors they use. even in the bible, i haven't seen these kinds of poetics. a beautiful recall of a beastly atheist "grabbing christians by the throat". how wonderfully masterful of these modern, proud nihilists. the question remains to be seen, however, whether they deserve the claim to herald their morality over others.

talks of putting "religion in its place". if only they could master their egoes first, they might have a one-up on christianity. instead - they ask us to do their bidding. to accept their way, their truths; to do as they say and not as they do.

what claim do they have? science? science is all well and good, and without a doubt - modern. but can science provide us with a moral code? can science deliver us truths (not facts) about humanity?

the myth of objectivity. i could write a book on this topic. one size definitely does not fit all in the category of morals - this is one of my truths ... could atheists and christians alike swallow this truth? not without a grimace --- all the while it is my proud medicine, i take it with a smile and ask for more.

so this is the bed they have made for themselves - born out of resentment, just like christianity, bound to seek the same revenge. in a nutshell - you militant atheists are the same as who you attack. you even both have your own messiah ...

clever. too clever.

thank you.
August.

Digg it | Delicious

Read datathinner's other blogs.datathinner's Recent Blogs

Obesity and Farm Subsidies

hey! its my studio

mackie satellite

help me figure out teh internets

don't cry over spilt milk (Tags: milky mixer)

Comments

1 | 2 | 3

01/21/07 + astroid

o that's it fuckface. up against the wall!

Recent blogs: blog friends?, california gay-friendly folk looky here, if tubgirl were immortal

01/21/07 + datathinner

Recent blogs: Obesity and Farm Subsidies, hey! its my studio, mackie satellite

01/21/07 + Otterfan

No, science can't provide us with a moral code.

But genes can.

Recent blogs: Boston emmeet for seanh?, AOL Data Release

01/21/07 + everamzah

everytime i think of dawkins, i think of his butt-fucking ms. garrison.... and it brings me pleasure

Recent blogs: i made three songs in two days., Fuck Holiday Spirit, the state of #em411

01/21/07 + datathinner

my critique is basically the same as the south park episode. replacing religious dogma with scientific dogma still leaves us with the same problems of dogma.

Recent blogs: Obesity and Farm Subsidies, hey! its my studio, mackie satellite

01/21/07 + Squeal

I watched that Dawkumentary he did, and he just comes off so fucking smug. Not at all like someone who is confident and secure, more like some offended baby with an ax to grind.

I didn't particularly disagree with anything he said.

Recent blogs: Take this job (school) and SHOVE IT

01/21/07 + monkvolcano

datathinner said: "my critique is basically the same as the south park episode. replacing religious dogma with scientific dogma still leaves us with the same problems of dogma."

yea.. that movie sucked.

but really.. what are you guys talking about anyway? link? i'm too lazy to google right now.

Recent blogs: sine sweep FAIL, cube lol, Vijo Editing

01/21/07 + datathinner

monkvolcano: link

Recent blogs: Obesity and Farm Subsidies, hey! its my studio, mackie satellite

01/21/07 + datathinner

squeal: it's not like i'm disagreeing with his theories or anything (i really don't know enough about them to tentatively agree or disagree). what i can't get over is the air of haughtiness he sublimates to his disciples. he essentially turns himself into a rabble-rouser, placing the importance on the rhetoric and not the reason.

Recent blogs: Obesity and Farm Subsidies, hey! its my studio, mackie satellite

edited: Jan 21 2007 + minisystem

i saw him interview ted haggard and it wasn't dawkins that came across as smug.

Recent blogs: a synthesist is born!, the last year or five, strange bedfellows

01/22/07 + cartesia

datathinner i agree. . . objectivity has been lost in scientific fanaticism . ..

Recent blogs: counter-intuitive ftw!, non-random use of random numbers?, My first max dabblings

edited: Jan 22 2007 + cbit

datathinnner said: "allow me to explain myself a bit: i haven't read anything by Dawkins, i'm mildly aware of his stance on certain topics, and this isn't any kind of polemic against the man himself. rather, i would like to examine his followers --- the cult of Dawkins."

I agree absolutely that there's often an unpleasant sense of dogmatism on those boards, that was dissapointing. But then, it's the internets. In contrast though, there are also often very balanced eloquent posts too.

You do need to read dawkins to find the most satisfying answers to your following objections though:

datathinner said: "what claim do they have? science? science is all well and good, and without a doubt - modern. but can science provide us with a moral code? can science deliver us truths (not facts) about humanity?"

Otterfan summed up the reply very well though:

otterfan said: "science can't provide us with a moral code.
But genes can."

science itself doesn't provide the code, it can give a credible explanation of where the code that we already have comes from.

datathinner said: "the myth of objectivity. i could write a book on this topic. one size definitely does not fit all in the category of morals - this is one of my truths ... could atheists and christians alike swallow this truth? not without a grimace --- all the while it is my proud medicine, i take it with a smile and ask for more."

you are a moral relativist? can you say more about what you mean by 'one size does not fit all' ?

Recent blogs: Mormo records on Bandcamp, STEIM is safe, Song for Two Mega Sites

01/22/07 + bsr

datathinners quotes from the dawkins board ("grabbing christians by the throat") illustrate a problem i have with people who eulogise athiesm - a christian behaves badly then he bahaved badly because of his blinkered beliefs, but when an atheist behaves badly.... it's just basic double standards.

01/22/07 + cbit

bsr i think i agree

bsr said: "a christian behaves badly then he bahaved badly because of his blinkered beliefs, but when an atheist behaves badly..."

but what would come next?

Recent blogs: Mormo records on Bandcamp, STEIM is safe, Song for Two Mega Sites

01/22/07 + bsr

well, it's hardly because of the supreme enlightenment that comes about through atheism (straw man i know - but in a playful way :P)

1 | 2 | 3

You must be a member to reply or post. signup or login