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Where is the new dance?
StoreTags: matti, dance, drunk, new
Author: Matti on January 27 2007
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--> First, let me say; I am drunk, therefor(e?) I write.

Now, where is dance music going? I listen to new emusic.com additions in the electronic section, and all i hear are rehashes of sounds that were cutting edge 20 fucking years ago. Please don't refer me to spastic "art" electronica. Breakcore etc. sure feels "new", but it feels more cerebral than corporeal to me.

I wonder what will take the 4/4 dancefloor music into a new era? It's like there was rock'n'roll, 20 years later disco, 20 years after that house emerged. It's about fucking time we get something new! But what will trigger it?

The only current "dance" producer that tickles me is Herbert, more or less.
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01/27/07 +  clarkq
its going to högbergsgatan.
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01/27/07 +  Logo
It's in my pants...

Seriously, I think the dance does quite well in the spastic "art" realm.
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edited: Jan 27 2007 +  monty
i bust out teh nu-barndance, nu-jig...nu-reel

i dont know what to fugging call it.

link

hot enuf 4 ye?
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01/27/07 +  Matti
is there anything actually going on at högbergsgatan? if so, i'm probably too old to engage.
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01/27/07 +  kovakone
bögbergsflatan

01/27/07 +  Matti
oh, and monty - your weird folky electronica sounds like a scene all by itself.
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01/27/07 +  TecknoMan
I think that the most vital electronic dance scene right now (read: music that ordinary people -- not just hipsters or electronic music dudes and their girlfriends -- listen to) is Reggaeton.

Also, there are lots of weird, related, hybrid styles that incorporate Crunk, House, Cumbia, Tejano, etc...)

01/27/07 +  cartesia
we're probably just reaching the theoretical limit of combinations of sounds. . in other words. . theres nothing left to be done. . we've already unlocked access to every sound imaginable by using electronic equipment, we've already had plenty of time to muck around with it and produce all discernably different sounds.

game over man! game over!

cerebral music is all we have left.
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edited: Jan 28 2007 +  utofbu
cartesia:

that is a scary thought... I disagree. The mentality of 4/4 is so limited by what people will accept, there are new things, We are just slow to find appeal in exploratory music. Eventually it will settle and there will be more explosions. I am sure of it.
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01/29/07 +  straight
oh god lets all do ourselves in then. to say that weve reached all the places that electronic music can go in the space of 60 years is crap, there was thousands of years of rhytmic dance music before electricity came along. off the top of my head dubstep, grime, baile funk are pushing dance in new directions without spasticing up
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edited: Jan 29 2007 +  monty
Ive been listening to a load of old 78s recently.
it struck me that musicians/producers sometimes have to wait a wee bit for format technology to catch up.

I was listening to some Lionel Hampton stuff. It struck me how constricted the format of 78s were. You could only fit one track about 3mins long on each side. Nevertheless these types of recordings were hugely influential all over the world.

I reckon once the new weird multi-media formats take off, then we'll start to see some different directions.
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01/29/07 +  yghartsyrt
there is no such thing as ' end of evolution'
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01/29/07 +  hst
i think most technical restrictions are conducive to musical innovation. no limits production can take horrid proportions.

returning to topic, on the other hand, i think it's all about references. herbert employs many non-trendy references such as sounds from the 20s to the 50s whereas referencing 1987 feels kinda overly done at the moment. on a side note, i really, really enjoy dancing to anything by justice.
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01/29/07 +  cartesia
Just to illustrate the fact that I was only joking/being a dick about running out of sounds..

*starts a random song generator program running, puts on sarcastic voice*
..lets see. . 5 minute tracks at 44.1khz sampling rate with each sample having a value of between 5 & 20,000 Hz
I believe the number of possible combinations is something along the lines of this: 19995^(44100*(5*60))

Which is a huge number (although by no means infinite!)

I'll be a millionaire record producer in no time! :P
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edited: Jan 30 2007 +  hardvoltnine
dance music is like a car,

it has to have wheels to move, but what it looks like will always be evolved by what people buy into and what people make.
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