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nanoc and I are gathering some stuff together to get a live-gig in a dubstep party, so we were like "oh yeah we gonna do 4 tracks in 3 days". Lol. Anyway, I started, and it wasn't so easy, like my track was all over the place and not grooving, and despite what every second post (oh no wait, every single one) about dubstep on the internet says "oh yeah it's so free it's not formula" there definitely is a lot of formulaic stuff.
So yeah teh sub, teh big sub, and teh midrange wobble bass, and teh weird chromatic hooks or what not. But you won't get your drums grooving unless you have the half-time breakbeat. So I know this is stupid, but I didn't get this, and had to find it out on my on. So don't forget the half-time breakbeat, that's what's gonna make your badly quantised beats and weird one-note sub sound like dubstep 
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I feel compelled to share the revelation, forgive me I know it is plain stupid and well known now that I looked for it on google
Anyway, for your ears, here is the main loop with everything:
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And here is a try at sequencing:
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02/28/07
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quip
i been working on this too. not getting there too well. big bass. slow beats. whats to go wrong? but there is so much more.
listen to the burial album its a great place to start.
02/28/07
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daswesen
Yeah the burial one is real nice. But most of the stuff I listened too I was like mehh... anyway, th eplan is to get the live gig and to improvise the stuff. We did that a few times for dnb without real clue regarding to production, and it was fun as hell and got the few people who were there better than the dark techitchy stuff on vinyl.
02/28/07
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papergoose
Parson's stuff is awesome. Home-grown Austin TX dubstep. It's real nice.
I've been having my hand at some dubstep lately too and been having a good time.
The 2 step beat is definitely a big part of it. It's not so hard really.
Getting that filter-cutoff wobble bass sound right is a good chore though. There are some good threads at dubstepforum.com about how to go about it.
Good luck.
02/28/07
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daswesen
I used grobian from reaktor ei1, and added a second lfo to modulate the wobble, as well as linked the note pitch to the wobble pitch. It's wobbly alright, maybe a bit too harsh in the distrotion and tuff but I'll have to look into that.
03/01/07
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lematt
hey daswesen, you're a real "musical sponge" .
but you don't need to make the same dubstep than everybody i think.
You're right: i think the "recipe" is to have one slow beat and the half time breakbeat thing...
the other things that seems important for me is some "dub clichés"... like.... ECHOED VOICES, dub sirens and so...melodica shits...
03/01/07
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lematt
PS: send a link to your liveset ;)
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Spark
accent the beat
03/01/07
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stick a seperate sub line mirroring the wobble line and cut your kicks at about 90-100hz, thinks thats one of the main keys to speaker ruffage. the rest is quite open to experimentation. the whole dmz/tempa sound is getting rinsed out by a lot of formulaic producers, the hyperdub route is the way to go, infinitely more interesting than that crawling wubwub business. this track by pressure (the bug) is one of my favourites and that stays firmly outside the conventions. link
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daswesen
Thanks for the tips ppl
I know this is really formula stuff, but I'd like to get that down and then start experiencing. It feels weird trying stuff and somehow noticing it doesn't match because you don't have the "basics". Thanks again
Added a link to the first try at sequencing that main loop.
03/01/07
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daswesen
That money honey track is ace, yeah!
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link and its all about the shackleton this weather, literaly pissing myself at the prospect of the 18 minute villalobos remix thats dropping this month
03/01/07
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straight
just been listenein to your tracks, you seem to have got the sound pretty well, the long one well reminds me of zombie jig with the organ sounds
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