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here's a great article about "loudness wars" in general, but many things too.
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foudn the link via osxa via ableton forum.
that dood from that link said: "Levels have crept up over the last decade though, and alarmingly so. Nevermind is 6-8dB quieter than, say, Hopes & Fears by Keane—to contextualise this, those 6-8dB will make Nevermind sound approximately half as loud."
the issue i find with "loud" and digital playback, is that there is a ceiling. and because of this ceiling you really cannot force "loud" naturaly. Tru loudness is best left to the amplification stage, not to the transport stage.
also, fook, thats a long article. thx god for speed reading. | |
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06/20/06
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jdg
fook, i tried 3times to get the f'n tags to work.
nada.
06/21/06
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Roshi
Hmm...losing dynamics and spatial feeling in the mixes is not good.
I was kinda wondering why I was finding the new Lips record kinda blah...that could explain it.
06/21/06
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kidko
It sucks. I'd much rather have clean peaks and a wide dynamic range, but next to these hyped tracks, my stuff would sound weak in a mix. It's a shame. I'm torn.
06/21/06
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airliner
word. we have a wide dynamic range for a reason. why squeeze everything into the top 5% of it and expect it to sound good?
06/21/06
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bleen
cool article! i'm sooooooo tired of taking dynamics out of a mix/master for people. but, then, i'm also tired of having to shit down a mix from the 24/96 glory it starts at, too. mp3 can bite my shiny metal ass....
my volume control still works and i'm happy to twiddle it.
06/21/06
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bleen
how 'bout sum more white space at the top of the blog, eh? :-P
06/21/06
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jdg
take vinyl tho.. (for example) cut it hot, listen to it hot. its LOUD. and dynamic. i love it.
06/21/06
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bleen
a friend and i compared talk talk's "colour of spring" on cd and vinyl a few years ago. the cd sounded great, the vinyl made me want to cry tears of joy.
06/21/06
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jdg
i just cried.
hold me
06/21/06
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Roshi
Loveless on vinyl is just plain lovely.
06/21/06
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jdg
has anyoen ever listened to any SACDs?
i've only listened to DVD-A and the 24bit was nice, a big more dynamics can be put into those bits before clipping.
06/21/06
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airliner
i've only listened to HDCDs...20 bit,i think? there's a noticable difference, but it's not huge.
06/21/06
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implexgrace
jdg said: "has anyoen ever listened to any SACDs? "
SACDs have a very nice, clean sound.. nicer than DVD-A, imo.
I listened to Miles Davis' "Skeches of Spain"
Fookin sounded amazing! Miles basically spit on me.
06/21/06
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cbit
my thumb is up this blog.
related: something i read about but forgot the name of.. a digital music playback system that scans the rms levels of all tracks in the playlist and attenuates (or boosts?) the level of each track to achieve an 'even' loudness on playback.. this kind of thing is very interesting; if it made the mainstream then thered be no advantage to having a cd mastered as hot as can be. Hot cds would be just as 'loud' as more dynamic ones.. but with poorer dynamics.
(does someone know what that technology is called? i think its a software that analyses mp3 levels at the moment)
06/21/06
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lunatinker
miles smiles on you. no spitting.
nice article. good photos...
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