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I'm fiddling around with the mpd24 and i was looking for starting reference point for established fingerings/patterns i could practice (because i could make something up of my own, but i didn't want to learn/bark myself into/up a blind alley/dead tree/wrong end).
So i was watching the aswell mpc finger drumming clip on youtube. It's the best one i've found for trying to get a handle on exactly whats happening. Of course, being on youtube the synchronisation is all out of whack, which makes it very tricky to study.
So i did a grab of the video using a os x screenrecorder soft called iShowU (a name i can't help but imagine being spoken in a thick japanese accent) link imported it into Live, rerecorded the audio and aligned it properly with the visuals.
Being able to see what was going on (most of it anyway) I made a diagram of the beat he plays in the first part of the vid (not all sounds included, just the basics). Posting it here in case its useful for anyone else too.
Here's the youtube beatz:
link
And here''s the diagram:
link
(read left to right, each frame represents 1/16th)
Edit: a practice vid of the basic pattern - link
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Squeal
lol at iShowu!
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utofbu
cbit said: "being on youtube the synchronisation is all out of whack"
ahhhh sweet flv embed
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Mr12000
I went to see TV on the Radio last week and Subtle was opening up for them who are composed of people from the Anticon hiphop collective including Doseone and Jel. Jel was doing amazing finger drumming on his MPC for the whole set. It kicked ass.
That is an awesome diagram. Good luck mastering this technique.
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cbit
thanks! I opened for subtle once; seeing jel doing the finger drumming that evening was what got me interested in this stuff :D very impressive stuff yes.
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bla
cbit said: " i didn't want to learn/bark myself into/up a blind alley/dead tree/wrong end)."
i love this kind of thing
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skab
that's a strange layout. he hits the snare and closedHH with the same finger? or am i just looking at it completely the wrong way?
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cbit
skab: yes, the index finger of the left hand hits the kick, snare and closed hh (!)
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skab
hmm...can't play the theme to "shaft" that way 
also, i bet you have to use a lot of screwy pad dynamics to get an even response. from your diagram it looks like he's playing the kick with the thumb of his right hand. i tried out the layout myself, and with my hands i have to play with my left indexed finger really arched to keep it out of the way of my thumb
how does it feel for you?
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cbit
so far its ok, the main awkwardness is when my left index reaches over for the snare, underneath my right index. The side of my 'kick' thumb is a little sore haha ; and yes: i've 'compressed' the velocity response with Live's velicity device to keep it fairly even. I'm finding that the alternating fingerings give a nice flow (eg. the 2nd snare of the bar is played with a diff finger): the few times ive had it going without fucking up felt very natural!
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monkvolcano
jel is the fuggin master.. maybe one day he'll give clinic's... hahah.
nice vid too. how do u like the mpd24? how does it feel?
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cbit
feels very nice pads are a massive improvement on the mpd16, faders and knobs are sturdy, lcd screen is nice and bright.. lots of useful information flahses up on there. Nice big rubber feet that seem to be screwed into the casing somehow - not just stuck on.. (i never owned an mpc so i don't know how the pads compare).
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jonbro
thanks for laying this all out. I haven't tried to to much heavy finger drumming on my mpd since the night that I got a good disco beat going for a few minutes, but when I stopped, my arms felt like they were going to fall off. They were not going to fall off in a good way though, like with real drumming, it was more akin to the pain that I feel after typing code all day, or playing genesis for 4 hours at a stretch.
maybe time for some more.
p.s. The mpd24 is pretty fantastic, but I don't really have much pad drumming experience outside of it. I played with the pads on one of the new axiom controllers and those felt a bunch more comfortable, but I am not sure they were as responsive. I might buy one just to give it a tryout.
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skab
i don't know if you can do it on the mpd, but with the trigger fing i usually alter the velocity curve of my kick pad so that i don't end up hurting myself (the thumbs main tendon makes it strong on opposable directions but not so strong side-to-side, i think...mlbot? your the scientiest, right?)
that way you can get more dynamics out of the other pads for ghost notes and flams without worring about miss hitting the kick.
now all i have to do is learn to play triplets with my left hand and quaters with my right ;)
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cbit
lol jonbro!
skab: yeah on the mpd24 you can alter pad sensitivity and independantly of that you can choose between 4 (i think) velocity curves - so i have the 'most sensitive' combination of the two. the pain in my thumb feels like its at skin level (like when you play a guitar for the first time in years) rather than joints/tendons serious stuff level, happily
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