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an idea that cannot be expressed
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OK so today I was at work listening to psyentifica - full on masters, a psytrance mix.
I was seriously daydreaming about how awesome my music would be in a few years (hah. . dont we all? :P)
Anyway in my daydream I was playing live in a club in my local town. . . and I was debuting this new track I had made. . . well really it was more like an entire style of music that I've certainly never heard before.
It was amazing, and has totally inspired me to keep on with producing music - I have nowhere near the talent to produce even a prototype of what I imagined yet!
So I'm sure you all want to know what this amazing song was like. . well unfortunately I can't tell you. . see. . it was more a kind of 'feeling' or 'rough outline' of how it would sound, and how it would be arranged, etc. etc. . . and for the life of me I can't come up with any words to describe it - there is some kind of almost impenetratable barrier between thought and expression blocking my way.
The best I can do is tell you that the track would be called 'fireworks' . . and it wouldnt actually have fireworks sampled in it :P
In fact it was very synthy. . rather than sample based. . almost entirely synth based. . kind of a synth explosion or something :s very clean sounds, not alot of harsh/noisey things going on. smooth and powerful, kind of like trance in a way but not at all like trance.
Sorry I can't explain it. . I just thought I'd write this down hear to keep me from forgetting when I go to sleep.
I need to hang onto this fragment of amazingness with my life.. . cos its totally inspired me to work hard to make it a reality, even if it takes the rest of my life. | |
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seanh
you though of it so you are part-way there. from here it is just trial and error until you get the sound you are looking for.
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subset
congratulations, you are now an addict.
welcome to the world of constantly reaching for your hat and having the wind blow it away at the last minute.
well, that sounds like torture, but actually it can be quite satisfying at times.
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cartesia
"congratulations, you are now an addict."
do i get a prize? apart from horrible withdrawals if I try to walk away from it? :P
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deltasleep
well said, subset.
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bla
ive been thinking of the same thing for a few days
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utofbu
you can actually put yourself in a state where you hallucinate sound. I truly believe it. I have fallen asleep to the blooming motif of a full orchestra. Its absolutly frusterating when they slip through your fingers. Hold onto that feeling but don't think that it will happen the same way twice, be ready for the next time. each time this happens to you, try toi note something about the feeling you get.
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astroid
nice one cartesia, i've had that type of visionary thing happen a few times. pay attention to it, honor it. you will create those sounds.
thanks for writing that down, too.
for some years i wasn't comfy with the idea that i'd know what something should "feel like" as opposed to knowing how it would sound, or anything else specific. But, the few times that I've gotten a glimpse of the "future", hazy though it may be, those have invariably become the driving force for my next years of creativity.
i was pretty embarrassed about being that "type of composer", and complained to a friend about it when i was about 26, and he said that i had described the act of being a composer. that helped.
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implexgrace
pawel you aren't smart, sorry duder
actually you are, at best, high school level thought. i mean, obviously you think making NES music has some kind of merit, artistically. and it does when x|k is doing it. but for you to sit there, all young and dumb, and talk shit about someone else' epiphany, as pedestrian as it might seem to you, you're basically posturing for your own inabilities and insecurities, maybe because your mommy and daddy didn't love you enough, or maybe you just couldn't get the hot chick at school. whatever the cause is, it's pretty clear that you have no idea what you are talking about and it would be awesome if you put a gun in your mouth and pulled the trigger. 
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astroid
cartesia, the only advice i could offer is to be open to the direction your inspiration takes you in.
when i have had these couple of flashes, it took years to process them (still working on them, actually), and they have led me through learning lots of new stuff, including, actually, all of the electronic music and recording i've ever done. not sweating giving things up, especially dearly held pieces of my identity, has been useful.
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prugelknaben
greasemonkey script. no pawel, ha hah a ha hah a.
thanks for the thoughts, cartesia. what a great situation. also, imagine, that your dreams now are only a result of your experiences this far. in a few years, who knows, maybe you will make music that blew todays dream away? i think honestly we can get there if we try.
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flies
"you can actually put yourself in a state where you hallucinate sound. I truly believe it"
one time right as i was waking up i was dreaming of some killer drumnbass, it was pretty unusual for the genre because the drum hits kept on changing subtly, it had a somewhat organic quality... When i opened my eyes i could still hear the music and i actualy was able to control it to a certain extent, introducing stutters and stuff. Fun stuff. Lasted about 8 seconds after i woke up.
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dach
PAWEL, you aren't normal. You are what is known as bitter and abusive. You'll figure this out for yourself eventually. In the meantime, people will continue to not like you.
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Rivel
wow, this thread turned into an electronica ego hormone battle with a pinch of pride. i'm gonna go wash my steamed nuts.
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dach
You sound surprised. Didnt you know that threads starting with grandiose visions of new genres of music always end up discussing someones nuts?
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soundhdack
@ cartesia
Regardless of all the egomania sourcing your thread I would posit that your dream was just about that. Or, more precisely, vanity. You have a very common problem––no confidence. That, as many who are vain necessarily miss, is a symptom of narcissism. In your dream life you have played an amazing concert in your local town. In your waking life you say , " I have nowhere near the talent to produce even a prototype of what I imagined yet". Both your waking life and your dream life feature the same condition, vanity, only the condition is skewed from one extreme to the other depending on which life you're focused on. In your dream life it's all about you and how talented, famous, and confident you are. In your waking life it's all about you and how talentless you are. And then you post on these boards to let everyone know how it is that you see yourself. Vanity. It's a tough nut to crack. Consider that what you may need to do is to think about your purpose being less about yourself. Maybe then you will complete some works because your preoccupation with yourself will lessen, and more space will be made so that you can actually focus on what it is that you are doing and need to get done. Not want to get done, need to get done. Wants are about vanity.
Some people deal better with being vain than others. Some, like yourself, are immobilized by it. Get out of the way of yourself, and then you'll see just what it is that you must do. Too much confidence or too little confidence will not be a matter then. Nor will yourself be a matter more than you need to be.
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