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'A history of violence' : Stephen Pinker
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Author: cbit on April 01 2007
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Interesting article, i thought:
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stephen pinker said: "The decline of killing and cruelty poses several challenges to our ability to make sense of the world. To begin with, how could so many people be so wrong about something so important? Partly, it's because of a cognitive illusion: We estimate the probability of an event from how easy it is to recall examples. Scenes of carnage are more likely to be relayed to our living rooms and burned into our memories than footage of people dying of old age. Partly, it's an intellectual culture that is loath to admit that there could be anything good about the institutions of civilization and Western society. Partly, it's the incentive structure of the activism and opinion markets: No one ever attracted followers and donations by announcing that things keep getting better. And part of the explanation lies in the phenomenon itself. The decline of violent behavior has been paralleled by a decline in attitudes that tolerate or glorify violence, and often the attitudes are in the lead. As deplorable as they are, the abuses at Abu Ghraib and the lethal injections of a few murderers in Texas are mild by the standards of atrocities in human history. But, from a contemporary vantage point, we see them as signs of how low our behavior can sink, not of how high our standards have risen."
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cbit
Hofstadter had interesting ideas.. seems to coincide with the stuff the 'Century of the self' documentary series deals with (control of the masses, capitalism, the origin of the ideas of 'the self' that we still have today). For me this is a an example of TV that everyone should see. Fascinating stuff :
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Sorry my link is slightly off topic, I was thinking along the lines of controlling the masses through politics.
right on! bernaise was a scary dude.
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cbit
completely.. i found it worrying that i hadn't heard of him before watching those episodes, while the effect he had on the way we live has been enormous (and pretty sinister).
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jogn
hehe freud is fraud
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cbit
jetsom said: ""The decline of violent behavior.."
Really not sure about that at all"
why not? assuming the studies he cites are reliable it seems pretty uncontroversial to me.
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Man i'm sitting through the documentary and it's really depressing.
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i love the soundtrack to those Century of the self docus btw.. i think it might be Raymond Scott, those spooky utopian sci-fi synths. i should check that.
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Jetsom
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I think its clear that he's talking about the following senses of violence:
1. Physical force exerted for the purpose of violating, damaging, or abusing: crimes of violence.
2. The act or an instance of violent action or behavior.
ie. physical violence.
soundtrack: i didn't get that feeling. Some people will dislike the music whatever it is, better not to try to 2nd guess what your audience will be comfortable with imo.
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cbit
dont pretend you don't know what i mean by physical violence or i'll lamp yer!
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