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remixing brings out something really intense in my work-flow
its always the same - a sense of responsibility for the other person's material
moving it in a manner that becomes half their work and half mine
i work by focusing on little elements that interest me - aspects of the sound design and compositionally apply my own style and take on those elements
i don't see the role of my remixes to improve a track - often the tracks i get involved in remixing are of a very high quality and they exist perfectly as the original
i try and bring a different view of the same track - extracting elements of the essence and building an alternative structure - just as different atmospheric conditions can change the same breath-taking view.... a remix should try to do the same....
the blog picture shows my cubase screen - with many tiny cuts of audio from Calika's track "blue stem crater"... i'm working on a remix that will sit alongside remixes of his work by he can jog & others @ audiobulb....
i have cut calika's sounds into tiny elements - built up rhythms and changed the bass line but not the bass sounds, the guitars have been cut into individual notes and new melodies emerged... noise, textures, and the ambience of my backgarden recording a neighbour who was prasctising scales on her flute - so far this where i am up to....
another 6 hours work before completion....
so how do you remix?
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astroid
remixing is a very intense process for me, too.
i'll talk about three remixes i did:
the first, for jdg's song on his last fell album (dash-dash):
when i heard it, i was taken by the warm sounds and the lush beats-and it inspired me to try to dig at the lush/warm associations i had, so it was really a process of fitting extra beats over bits of a rhodes loop and some of his beats, finding the specific groove of the part of his samples i liked, playing stuff with good feel (bass, flute, guitar) and then allowing the composition to form itsself naturally-i had to chop and rearrange form quite a few times-finishing the process involved some sound design to put everything in the same "bong-smoke and crust" arena. I knew it was working when i felt stoned. The beats i added came from an idea i got from JD about lopsided beats-and then some lazy bass to pull the beat back.
the second-Fredo's sad song remix:
I learned the song on guitar, chords and everything, melodies, so i could really feel the song at all times. it's a simple archtypal progression, so it really got embedded in my head. then i sat down and wrote the arrangement for two guitars, two flutes, and two saxes on paper, while watching tv, movies, etc. being able to sing the arrangment in my head and hear the chord changes was essential. I've done one string arrangment like this before and plan to do it again, because it's so intense a process (took a good week of work to write the piece, working probably 4 hours a day) that it gets me to a deep place in my compositional efforts. after i had it written, i played it (mostly measure by measure because it was hard as hell), and then did some editing with the main tracks, again a bit of sound design at the end to tie it together.
remix for psyingo's tensor:
nobody's heard this yet, but i will post it soon. again, it came from the original track, just grooving with the starting elements and then figuring out little ways with all of my gear to groove with it- it quickly turned into an IDM atrocity- and any time i needed some nice noisy source material, i'd dig through psyingo's stuff. it came track first and then my girlfriend told me "not every track needs a melody, but this does" which really unlocked it, gave it a much better shape. i have little touches to add before it's done.
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daswesen
thanks astroid, cool processes.
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lunatinker
nice blog pic. that a lot of dense matter in there.
i'm a little lighter on the final cut.
i tend to make "bit-parts" and blend them.
in essence what i mean is that i tend to mix the bassline and insert it as one wave file
and continue the process for each type of sound or effect.
i end up with around 9-20 waves in the final mix and compress lightly/EQ or whatever.
the meat of the project is in the little parts: getting the sound in sync, consistent,
etc. for each type of sound for the whole track. then throwing it al together to see if
i still like it....
lol bong-smoke and crust, the astroid remix... is there a link? now i wanna hear.....
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autistici
great to hear these processes - really fascinating insights - that is dedication astroid 
lunatinker said: "nice blog pic. that a lot of dense matter in there.
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maybe not as dense as it looks - may of those audio segments are muted + many are very quiet/incidental sounds like individual samples of static and clicks - i made a beat from a bit of audio (hisses, clicks and static) that was at the end of calika unplugging his guitar....
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lunatinker
just add wave files - ps: that's a $1500 blender
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lunatinker
really appreciate the ideas autistici. i was painting kitchen cabinets yesterday and thinking about sharing more ideas about the
"process" or "production flow" . ... gratzi
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DrexonField
for me, sometimes it depends on if i would like to use some of the original source material/samples to keep a similar overall feel while adding my new parts to it. but i also like to approach remixes starting from scratch and just trying out stuff in the same scale/key of the song being remixed.
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jcd
Good insights in here.
Astroid, I wanna add my voice a little late to the chorus of praise for your 'Sad Song' remix- it's the highlight of an already formidable collection.
As for remixing, I tend to listen to the original a few times in a row, then turn it off completly. I let the song ripen in my head, until I'm left with a few key points (usually the ones I find myself humming while doing something else). I aim for the finished product to be basically 'my take' on these key elements; "what kind of song I would make if I had come up with *this* melody, or *this* bassline?", or whatever elements I'm working with.
I generally use Live for remixing, since it's so very good at looping. I used Garage Band once (for an mc chris remix) and it went quite well, despite the crashes (version 1 was a little buggy). I would use it again, though I'm PC-based now.
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papergoose
when i did Fredo's sad song, i was really moved by the raw vocals, un-layered. I wanted to bring out that feel and vulnerability i heard and present it in a new way to emphasize that. i don't know if i achieved that goal, but with that in mind, i drew pictures and visual representations of the what i heard in my head and then pulled out loops and pieces of the voice that inspired me and just let it flow from that. the sense of responsibility is huge, yes, and a very big motivator. but at the same time, i can't write for shit unless it comes out organically
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GregTArtZ
Wow, you guys give me a new respect and understanding for word remix-
Inspiring fellas
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jdg
i guess im totally diff then most ppl. i just use the raw tracks a sample library for a new track.
this works well for me as i pretty only use samples to make music.
remix=mixit for me :!ED:C
07/03/06
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lunatinker
i want more mixits.
maybe remixes are where i will go also.
that's a great approach jdg.
good as wakery bakin.
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bsr
same as jdg, i just go through the wav's picking out sounds i like and build up a library of samples from that, then i use my usual process to create a track without worrying about the original.
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dynamo
lunatinker said: "i want more mixits."
yeah, me to! what are we going to do about teh mixits? i'm getting withdrawal symptoms here...
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kidko
great idea for a blog! I want to ask people this question all the time because I want to cater my site to musicians who do remixes. Thanks for asking this.
I haven't done too many myself, but typically my method is like JDG's where I just treat it as a mixit... I tend to let the original track make some decisions for me like which tones will be my featured synths, etc.
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