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Live tutorial: Poor man's groove quantize
StoreTags: ableton, tutorial, groove, quantize, live
Author: cbit on October 27 2007 Viewed 3248 times. 14 people liked this blog. You can rate it below if you haven't already.
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Another short video guide. Some of you are doing this already i bet. This solution is far from ideal but might be useful sometimes.
Ableton Live (v7 and lower) is lousy when it comes to working with grooves. Here's a workaround that might be useful until Live incorporates real groove quantize support.
It involves setting up warp markers and setting a clip to act as tempo 'Master'.
Gotchas:
If you need to change tempo during a track this method isn't suitable.
Be careful that you disable warp on single-hit clips that you place on the timeline. | |
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yghartsyrt
coolio. haven't thought of that.
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Fredo
Yay! Tutorials from cbit!
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Fredo
cbit, you should make a dvd and sell it. I'd be a buyer for sure. But it would have to be from ground up, which would probably take too much time for you. Still, let me know if ever you have one! Your identity on the interenet is very strong as an electronic musician and I can't imagine it would be anything but positive for you and your music!
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cbit
thanks f. thats an interesting idea, it would be a huge change of pace.. i'll let it ferment!
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mechp
I tip my hat to you sir, as always!
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cbit
thanks mheung. Hoping against hope that live8 will make this technique redundant.
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everamzah
hoping against hope? see, if it were FREE software *ducks*
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cbit
hoping against hope? see, if it were FREE software *ducks*
huh?
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mixedtape
I believe he's referring to linux...
anyway, thanks cbit can't wait to this version.
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everamzah
okay. ...if it were free software you could urself code the groove quantization, or commission it under an umbrella project.
i meant free as in freedom.
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cbit
Oh you mean if it were open source i wouldn't need to just hope, yeah that would be ace--but on the other hand there's no saying in what state the Live project would be if it was open source from the beginning, it would be a completely different app. It may have never caught on, and then languished after losing market share to commercial competitors.. who knows.
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everamzah
yup, totally probable.
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mixedtape
that's why i do all my computing on my <a href="http://www.atarimuseum.com/computers/8BITS/XL/800xl/800xl.htm">atari 800XL</a>
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mixedtape
FUCKING HATE NO EDIT. why even have the link!?
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disturb
the only drawback with this is that your project is stuck to the audio file's bpm, it won't let you change it.
with some work this can be pretty useful though, one could import midi grooves and export audio files triggering a click track at different bpms.
then you'd have to warp those, and they could be used as a bank of groove templates.
haven't quite found the time to do that though, but i'm surpirsed there aren't any resources like this available around, with say the mpc swings etc.
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