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Author: 11t1 on December 07 2007
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I saw a pretty cool doc on CBC yesterday - blogged about it here: link
Since some of you had positive things to say about my previous blog on the pagan roots of X-Mas, I thought there might be some interest in the big guy Himself being a reinterpretation of an ancient Egyptian sun god.
Nothing about music - sorry - but I'm sure someone else is writing something music related as you read this.
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celibacyclub
pretty cool!
maybe ppl will start to realize that the bible is a book. a story. not a history.
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mlbot
I'm no theologist, but Akhenaten's monotheistic religion wasn't exactly a smash hit.
His son went back to worshipping all the old gods, and everyone was the happier for it.
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celibacyclub
then they migrated and started a more popular movement when they found a guy with the right star power?
im no theologists but wast there some thing about some dude dividing a sea, and ppl leaving egypt?
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mlbot
well, yes, but i dont think it was the egyptians what left egypt.
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celibacyclub
but those slaves may have learned about the akhenaten monotheism.. just a theory
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11t1
ya, but the egyptians really left an impression on the isrealites. i read somewhere that books like leviticus were written to re-teach the jewish people about how their faith was to be practiced because most of them only knew what they'd had thrust upon them (which is why they resorted to idolatry as soon as Moses went up the mountain)
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mlbot
according to wikipedia, the theory that Judeism was an ofshoot of Akhenaten's unpopular monotheistic debacle was first put forward by...
SIGMUND FREUD
who is also NOT a theologian by any means.
So I call bullplop. I think Judeism probably has more to do with the Jews, their heitage and culture, than something they borrowed from the Egyptians during their time in slavery.
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11t1
look at the history of slavery in america - the practice of non-state approved religions wasn't kosher for african slaves in the new world, what makes one think that jewish slaves in africa would've had religious freedom?
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mlbot
also interesting: the role of zoroatrianism on Western religion
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Its much easier to draw parallels between Jesus and Zoro ;)
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mlbot
I dunno... by the fact that Akhenaten couldn't even get HIS OWN PEOPLE to worship Aten, let alone a bunch of slaves.
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mlbot
...certainly, I think it'd take more than one generation to convert an entire population of people.
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deltasleep
I think that there's a LOT better case to be made for Dionysus' potential influence on christianity.
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11t1
maybe it took several generations, from exodus to the big BC/AD rollover, for the ideas to co-mingle and evolve into something else, especially considering so much of the "pagan" world had no qualms with celebrating a sun deity that may not have been the one & only but was definitely the most powerful. is it then not inconceivable that what people now accept as a literal person is an amalgum of many stories from the dawn of history?
i've yet to investigate how zoro left his mark on the world, even though I've always thought "zoroatrianism" was a wicked cool word.
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Roshi
mlbot said: "according to wikipedia,"
Bad mlbot. I'm notifying your university and having your degree revoked
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mlbot
well, i just think that a religion that was only worshipped for part of one generation, and only by the very elite, and even then only under duress, would have had much influence at all on the wide number of Semitic peoples who were held hostage, across a large ountry, who were probably not in households of the elite, and probably didn't even speak the same language. Atenism barely had any influence on the Egyptians...
But, then, I am skeptical anytime a psychologist steps outside their office and offers theories on shit they know absolutely nothing about and then only provide "thought evidence".... and I am double skeptical of anything Freud ever said.
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