Electronic Music 411 - audio- vs. midi-sequencing - sequencing, midi, audio, workflow

midi requires you save presets and program changes and all that shit. too complicated for me I think, I make everything into audio and sequence that.
sequencing sucks

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12/09/07 + energygiant

very little sequencing....but when i do its with rubber buttons on my sampler (which i guess would count as both) or just chunks of audio.
i dont understand all those colorful rectangles

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12/09/07 + bla

ive only got hardware sequencers and my sampler can only hold 41 seconds of audio in 5 second or less pieces (unless i use a low rate but....)
so its midi midi midi for me (without any colourful rectangles)

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12/09/07 + tylth

GUYS! wait a second!

i mean midi sequencing INSIDE a DAW. you know, piano roll editing throughout a song. seems to me like few of the 'pros' do that (take above screenshots) for example. we're not living in the 80's anymore so hardware sequencing is out of the question.

bla, you're exceptional and hilarious and therefore without boundaries.

even funnier that there's a need to clarify. how do you work with midi inside a daw with vstis?

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12/09/07 + bleen

still doing plenty of midi sequencing in logic here. i HATE midi in protools, so i never do it there, just audio.

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12/09/07 + astroid

actually, tylth, they just aren't showing the midi tracks they used, at least in that second one. look carefully at the track list on the left. some aren't highlighted, meaning they're just hidden from the edit view.

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12/09/07 + astroid

i count 6, including a reaktor track.

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12/09/07 + celibacyclub

i use midi up to the point im done changing things, then render to audio. though if im not running out of cpu resources i might leave things midi.

midi fx/daw functions are fun, can be great compositional aids, choping notes up, arpegiating, flipping up/down or left/right.

so yeah i use both. a nice painoroll i feel is a must though. ableton's has become rather usable to me recently, but i still love fl's the best. so quick, and so many nice little tools.

i think often protools pros use audio because they are not composing really, they are mixing.. or they are working on non em sort of stuff that might not have anything to do with midi to begin with. just a theory though.

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12/09/07 + cbit

MIDI notes don't last long in my tracks. They get bounced to audio and sliced quickly. While there are midi notes something feels wrong, i don't trust them somehow.

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12/09/07 + quip

i compose almost entirely with midi, then render bits down and record whatever external instruments
i have use. i like to keep everything "changeable" for as long as possible.

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12/09/07 + tylth

astroid said: "i count 6, including a reaktor track."

good work mr. eagle eye 8 )

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12/09/07 + tylth

celibacyclub said: "(...) i think often protools pros use audio because they are not composing really, they are mixing.. or they are working on non em sort of stuff that might not have anything to do with midi to begin with. just a theory though."

somebody here to substantiate the first part of cc's theory?

why not trust midi, is it something to be ashamed of? (looking partly in your direction cbit)

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12/09/07 + Logo

tylth said: "

somebody here to substantiate the first part of cc's theory?

why not trust midi, is it something to be ashamed of? (looking partly in your direction cbit)"

One reason could be that MIDI doesn't visually represent a track in detail (i.e. sounds with with long decays, delay based fx, dynamics, etc. MIDI will just show you note on/off, velocity, etc). If that makes sense...

I like to bounce everything down... it makes it seem more tangible in a weird way.

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12/09/07 + Logo

^^^^ the comment is about not trusting MIDI

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12/09/07 + nagrom

all MIDI. can't stand making decisions.

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