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Come take a peak at my new viddy!
StoreTags: skerror, clock, room, espionage, video, dream
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I made a video for my track "Clock Room Espionage". It's up in the video section of my myspace page: link
I think they make you log in to view it...so I'll likely end up putting it on youtube for anyone who is anti-myspace (If there are any anymore!). Actually, if anyone has recommendations for any other sites I can host it on for free, I'd be psyched to hear them.
This video is mostly a slash-up/coloring/layering job on a vid from the public archives and it is sort of a jumpoff point for me. I think I got the coloring and compositing pretty close to how I wanted it. On future vids though, I want to work more with frame rates so I can get more exact matches between beats and cuts. Maybe 20 or 40 fps will get me closer to where I want to be with these.
If anyone could drop me a comment, rating, or bit of sagelike AV advice, that would be great. Either here or there is good. Thanks everyone!  | |
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07/15/06
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daswesen
Arg friggin' myspace I can't download it :/
I did a few experiments with cutting film to beats last year, and I'm resurrecting some of the stuff for a VJ tool I'm building. You can read about it here: link (keep in mind that I have no clue about film editing and music videos though .
07/15/06
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skerror
Whoa, that VJ tool looks like it's going to be some potent stuff. I'll keep an eye out for it.
Programming and pure data still makes my head spin quite a bit. I can never conceptualize it enough to feel in control...so I'm still bogged into the hours of hand-editing stuff. I'm right handed, but I actually had to do this video lefty because I now have pinched nerves in my right shoulder from so much repetition in writing music, editing video, and photoshopping. Using something along the lines of the software you are developing would really help me out...at least in automating particularly labor-intensive sections.
Does your VJ tool have a name yet? I wish you much luck
07/15/06
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Fredo
Hey there, Sir Skerror.
First of all, amazing work... Both the music and the video. I think you are definitely on to something with a lot of the techniques you have developed here.
I wish I could see a better compressed version, as the myspace one is pretty muddy and I assume that the hi compression version has more detail. If it doesn't that is my first comment... that you should play with the levels a little just to make it a tad more defined visually. Just a tad though, because what is most fascinating about the technique is how shapes from other images merge with others superimposed, creating a really ambiguous pattern.
I also really love your palette here, although the dusty rusty purple tone might be a little dark, it provides a really sick contrast to the x-ray blue. Again, I would love to see this in hires.
The biggest problem I have with the video is that there doesn't seem to be much visual development. It seems a little disconnected by the final quarter of the video, although I recognize new shapes showing up, it just didn't seem like the foundation imagery had changed at all and this doesn't serve the music too well. Would it be possible to build another structure OVER what you have hear of, like (just as a really stupid example some kind of light going on and off or a sun rising, or something actually more visually elaborate than that actually, but bright... adding a new harmonic color combo or something... Then you could be developing a deeper abstract narrative, by layering more development... but it would have to be obviously different from what you have here, so that is why I suggest a different color harmony. And it would also help if the tempo of the new layer was totally different as well, much much slower perhaps, to contrast what you have here.
Maybe I just didn't get what you have done here, though, and there is more development that I just haven't noticed yet. Either way, it's very creative work, very original, and I especially love the music.
edited: Jul 15 2006
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daswesen
thanks skerror, actually the VJ tool is something completely different (it's java based, and uses generative algorithms from processing.org to build the visuals, no video involved for now...), but I'll try to make use of the "concepts" (what a word) that came to mewhile building the lisp application. i'm much more a coder guy than a visual guy, and actually the idea for the cutting tool came while helping a friend with music for his movie. He was hand editing all the jittery sequences and I said "wow, you could really let the computer do that for you" so that was how the tool was born.
edit: You can see the trailer for that movie here: link
The music is one of my very first dabs into electronic music, and yeah i'm the guy with the red mohawk
If you haveany ideas of how to rearrange frames and stuff and it is getting tedious you could send me an email I would be very much willing to help you with the coding and help you with programs, drop me an emmail if you want
I think I'll have a "usable" version of the VJ tool out by next monday or so, and as it is closely coupled to music and MIDI stuff (i control it from live), I'll post a blog entry here.
07/15/06
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skerror
Fredo! So glad to get your expert words on this.
Ugh...just watched the first bit of it on youtube. Yeah, the compression they use sucks quite a lot out of it. I'm really going to have to plan for that in future projects. The finished version was a 93mb 640x480 .mov file. I'm hesitant to host something like that with my own webspace. I'm planning on doing quite a bit more video work in the near future as well...so I need to stick with these video sites as the solution, at least for right now.
I hear you man. This video could definitely stand to take a break from the shadows. I've probably been watching too much Tarkovsky and Fassbinder lately. I think I got locked into something like making one long shot here...trying to provoke the inventive faculties of the viewer. I thought there was enough here for them to build their own rich narrative under the blanket of a kind of ghostly, dreamy, purgatoric dread. Introducing a different aesthetic would be pulling them away from that, I felt. I should probably steer away from doing that sort of thing in future videos though. I think people tend to watch these little videos with the expectation of being dazzled or of seeing something new...which is probably what I should work towards.
Again, much thx Fredo...for the music props as well
Oh cool daswesen! I've seen pixel-based generative art before...but never anything that you could MIDI control. I'll look forward to hearing more. Much thanks for the code-help offer I may have to take you up on that on some point. Knowing me though, I'll likely end up staying bunkered in the trenches and grinding through the tedium. I've still got years worth of abuse I can put into my left shoulder ;)
07/15/06
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Fredo
three words: sorenson three compression. Super small size, totally acceptable quality. I want to see this in better compression!! If you have AfterEffects you can import your master file and export the movie again using Sorenson 3 compression.
I don't think you need to dazzle the viewer, Skerror. Actually I usually hate animations like that. It can be really superficial. But to me it's all about storytelling and structure, and you can't really see much from the bad compression. Anyway, I didn't mean to put anything so different in, just different enough that you sense the arrival of another element and let that play off the one you have set up.
07/15/06
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skerror
Oh yeah, I'm all about the sorenson three. OK, I'll do it. I'll post a link on here to a better version in the next couple days. I think I know what you mean by a different element now...so while I'm in there I might see what I can do about weaving another element in
07/15/06
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jdg
i wanna watch.. but have to jet.. hopefully i'll remmber in the moanin.
07/15/06
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sclr
its a cool video. i really liked it. other than what has been said about the video compression(which is youtube and myspace anyway) i think its great. also requested you as friend on myspace.
07/16/06
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astroid
fuck man i'd like to see this but myspace scrood the pooch
07/16/06
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jdg
i cannot watch. myspace says my flash player is too old. which is bullshit
upload to youboob or something
07/16/06
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astroid
YOUTUBE!
YOUTUBE!
YOUTUBE!
07/17/06
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astroboy
youtube shmootube!
keeps saying "macromedia flash... connecting..." for ages. and nussing heppns!
i want to see it puhlease! youtube!
07/17/06
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Fredo
youtube compression looks worse than myspace compression.
07/17/06
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astroid
i'd rather watch it compressed through a whale penis than not be able to see it at all on myspatch
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