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Ableton Live: faking swing for audio clips
StoreTags: beats, ableton live, swing
Author: cbit on February 19 2008 Viewed 1942 times. 17 people liked this blog. You can rate it below if you haven't already.
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Another quick how-to. Same principle as the groove quantize hack, but much simpler: link
Ableton live has a swing function, but its effect is limited to midi notes and warped audio clips. A recent post over at Wire to the Ear talks about how to use Live's swing capability. But if you're like me you have lots of separate, unwarped audio clips on your timeline, little 'monosyllabic' sounds. And if you want these to swing, Live won't help you.
If you need a simple swing for your audio clips, here's a quick and rough way to fake it. | |
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breakscience
Pretty cool man!
...but ableton needs to add this already (well, still might not work for audio, but...). I guess version 8 will come out in 4 months, and it will have full groove template support for another $100!
02/19/08
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cbit
breakscience said: "Pretty cool man!
...but ableton needs to add this already (well, still might not work for audio, but...). I guess version 8 will come out in 4 months, and it will have full groove template support for another $100!"
If it doesn't work for seperate audio events its useless to me! I guess proper groove support must be one of the most popular feature requests right now.
02/19/08
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breakscience
yeah, I'm all about midi/simpler right now, so groove templates sound great to me.
off topic a little but... Do you usually arrange by hand or trigger clips to arrangement? just curious
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cbit
I never use the session view, so it all happens in the arrangement for me. (in fact i don't even record stuff in, it's all mouse clicking and dragging  )
02/19/08
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Bantam
Useful tip, especially if you have a few tracks with seperate clips. If I had to do this, my first port of call would probably have been to stick my sounds into Impulse or Simpler and use midi.
What are the advantages to using the clips in their raw form on the timeline, cbit?
02/19/08
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cbit
"What are the advantages to using the clips in their raw form on the timeline, cbit?"
I like to be able to see the waveforms as i'm working with them. Looking at anonymous midi notes doesn't click with me-especially since i often end up with lots going on, and many diff kinds of sounds on one track.
02/19/08
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mlbot
"What are the advantages to using the clips in their raw form on the timeline, cbit?"
He's an old, old, old fogey who still feels most comfortable with Trackers*
*Trackers: pre-historic audio sequencers
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mlbot
I'd love for live to have bettwe draw funciotnality for automation.
i remember StudioVision had a tool where you could draw a ramp in the automation lane, but instead of an absolute ramp, it'd multiple existing data by a percentage, so that all that detailed square-wave stuff you've drawn would get increased or decreased over the time you specify. i.e. this technique would work with a song that needs gradual tempo changes, too.
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cbit
mlbot said: "I'd love for live to have bettwe draw funciotnality for automation.
i remember StudioVision had a tool where you could draw a ramp in the automation lane, but instead of an absolute ramp, it'd multiple existing data by a percentage, so that all that detailed square-wave stuff you've drawn would get increased or decreased over the time you specify. i.e. this technique would work with a song that needs gradual tempo changes, too."
yes, that'd be excellent, like the 'functions' (?) that logic has.
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RRine
hells yes.
02/19/08
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lowlifi
I still miss "destructive audio" like in Cubase..if Live had that, plus better groove functions for MIDI, i would be all set.
Great tip cbit!
02/20/08
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thehydrax
Why a real swing/groove function has never been in Live has always made me wonder. Seems like such a basic thing
02/21/08
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lysdexic
massive props cbit.. keen to test this out.
i never use the session view either, and my channels are filled with 64ths & 32nds of random hits that i've been manually adding swing to.
02/21/08
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cbit
thanks lysdexic, hope it turns out useful for you
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