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They're very important, apparently. But I don't understand them. Or maybe I do but I just don't like them or I don't care.
I imagine that most of us here don't. I was thinking this morning that the part of my brain that is traditionally devoted to sports teams, plays, and players in normal American males is devoted to artists/bands, songs, and synth manufactures, models, and architecture/parameters. Probably why most of my male friends are either synth nerds or are gay (sometimes both). Come to think of it, it's a little odd that I can't think of any gay friends who are sports fans.
Anyway, I find this a little depressing since I cannot relate to other males in everyday life. Just my small group of friends which is slowly dissipating from Spokane, and you guys (and 3 or 4 gals). Since I don't think that my awareness of different synths is doing me any favors I was thinking maybe I should start studying sports. But that strikes me as even more sad and nerdy. Plus it seems like an all or nothing kind of thing - either you don't watch sports and don't give a shit, or you watch them obsessively, as much as you can.
If I start watching them it would be like an alien studying Earth culture. Plus I would always feel like I was watching The Family Guy ... something intended for a wide audience that somehow doesn't include me that has all aspects of what is widely accepted as entertainment but which provides me no satisfaction on intellectual, aesthetic, or, well, entertainment levels.
The fact that I'm thinking so hard about this seems to tell me that this would be a futile exercise and that it would probably just make me feel more depressed. So here's to finding more gay guys and synth nerds to hang out with in Spokane. And accepting that I'm just another sensitive artfag that will always have trouble bonding with the everyman, which I acknowledge with both sadness and, frankly, condescension. | |
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Analog
Most men who like sport only watch because they secretly are gay. FACT.
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jarvis
I play 4-Square every Thursday during the summer and bike everywhere weather (and gear load) permitting. It seems to be enough exercise for me.
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As entertaining as that idea is, I think it surely must go deeper than that. I shouldn't have even said American; I have some Japanese friends who watch soccer with as much fervor as my American acquaintances watching "football". I was googling for explanations and apparently since men aren't supposed/allowed to be sensitive, they express poetic emotions to other males through sports. This seems like a real tragedy to me. But if it makes them happy, and it's an outlet for expression, that's great.
It certainly reeks of homophobia, though, doesn't it? From, like, miles away.
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adcBicycle
I have trouble thinking of an activity that is less useless then watching sports ... is knowing crazy detailed stats about a sport a purely pointless activity?
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I don't think it has anything to do with exercise, though. Seems that a lot of sports fans sit on their ass on the couch or on barstools chugging beers and the most moving around they do is at work or in the yard. Maybe some of them go to the gym too but it doesn't seem to have any correlation with their appreciation of sports.
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jarvis
I often wonder if I should learn about sports to make small talk with people that can't talk about anything else but sports, but then I realize that these are not people I really want to be talking to or things I'd like to concern myself with anyway.
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mlbot
Don't write people off so quickly.
I mean, c'mon. you guys come here every day and participate in the huge melee that is "Ableton versus Fruity", "hardware vs Software", "mac vs PC", "pawel vs terry Turbo", you keep stats and other useless facts in your head about all the players, you bond over the mutual joy found as you watch fredo crush youtube.
look in the mirror, for the big Sportsfan is YOU [cur spooky music]
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mlbot
ps, I 'play' a sport 3-4 times a week. I also watch football on TV. And American gladiator. Sometimes MMA down at the pub.
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adcBicycle
at least you learn something about making music with fruity loops ableton talk...
watching reruns of Friends, you learn about human relationships...
sports: nothing
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Roshi
I like ESPN2.
Especially when they have strange sports such as baton twirling, double dutch, karate breaking, and other such activities. The commentary makes it even better.
I'm not so much a professional sports fan - I like to watch people who still have passion for what they do. That's why it's ESPN2 for me
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bla
it can be fun watching people competing at something or trying to accomplish some physical feat but its nothing you need to get passionate about
i pretty much dont care who wins- well, im slightly in favour of liverpool winning at football because i have friends who support them so i want them to be happy
i dont really do any physical exercise except lightweight lifting of boxes at work for 2 or 3 hours a day and walking to the shops and back
i dont have the skill and coordination to be good at sport- im pretty much always shit at stuff when i first try it and this puts me off practicing/learning
im pretty lazy mentally too
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packetst0rm
"Most men who like sport only watch because they secretly are gay. FACT."
HAHA! You made my day I work with a bunch of sport crazy essex wideboy recruitment consultants. I'm convince rugby is just like a night on old compton steet ( link ) i.e just a excuse to go touch up men!
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mlbot
adcBicycle said: "at least you learn something about making music with fruity loops ableton talk...
watching reruns of Friends, you learn about human relationships...
sports: nothing"
is there a friendly way to say "you sound so superior."?
The inherent need to compete that is so strong in people, men especially, draws many to sports.
I was trying to point out that em411 is full of it, too. otherwsie there'd be more discussion here on making music than there are perennial discussions on what's the Best drum machine, what is the Grand Champion sequencer, who Won the laptop battle, shit like that.
so, well, glass houses... dont throw stoner metal or something.
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timmo
For whatever reason I've never been drawn into sports, at least watching, but I do a lot, a lot of kayaking myself and I find certain sports like skiing and some other things pretty fun to watch, but I just can't get into football, soccer, baseball, basketball, those things...I don't know why. But the weird thing is that, because I'm a guy, I think I absorbed a bunch of that stuff somehow. My girlfriend always makes fun of me when I know some random sports answer in a crossword puzzle for example. I have no idea how I got that info, but there it is coming out.
Regarding gay guys and sports, when I was in DC last year the girl I worked with and I went to see a show, and we were early, so we went to the sports bar next door to get some food...when we got in there I felt something was really different about that place...it took me a while to figure it out, but it was a gay sports bar. Being in there was almost as interesting as the show we saw.
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astroid
i thought this was gonna be about the huey lewis album.
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