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Mormo: fly-on-the-wall view of track in progress
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Prompted by rogerroger's 'how do you do it post', and daswesens emtv episode i made a kind of 'over the shoulder' recording while working on a track today--because seeing how people work can be useful in unexpected ways.
Rush to see the bad sound, blurry image, warts-and-all vid here:
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Its a shame i couldn't do the caputre with a screen recording app, but my cpu/hardisk, couldn't keep up so this is my laptop isight recording the computer screen, and the inbuilt mic recording the audio, while i work. | |
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FailedSitcom
Really looking forward to watching this.
Thanks for sharing!
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FailedSitcom
Really interesting video.
I know it might not sound like a compliment but I love how uneventful it is, it shows perfectly how many small details go into your tracks and that there is no quick fixes if you are after such a sound.
Edit: I'd also love to see more people do things like this (during Mixits? Quixits?).
Hope edit is working.
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cbit
failedsitcom said: "but I love how uneventful it is"
haha yeah it's dull as heck, i think that can be useful to see too. I think we should try to out-do each other with vids that destroy all traces of mystique about making music!
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astroid
one trial and error fugue forthcoming
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mlbot
Do i control yuo with the mouse, or WASD?
I keep clicking your tracks, but I dont see you attacking. WTF!
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cbit
Click harder ftw!
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em978
like the track... but watching this give me a headache.
I always wear headphones when i am working on tracks to not annoy anyone that can hear my constant looping of the same thing.
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cbit
yeah: i don't notice it while i'm working on a track, but watching the video back, the looped stuff gets annoying quickly.
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hecanjog
thanks for posting, always interesting to see folks work - sounds like it's coming along too!
i think a video quixit would be rad. 30 minute quixit, everyone must record themselves making the track. i'd eat that for lunch. omnomnomnom.
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RogerRoger
I was riveted the entire time! Mostly trying to match your actions to changes in sound, and not really succeeding, but I caught a few things, like the reverse->forward clip pair. Why are they on seperate tracks? Speaking of tracks, jeebus kriminy there's alot of 'em! I don't even know if Live lets you move them around visually so related ones are displayed next to each other, but that would be helpful. What are the control strips on the right side, the sends and final mix?
BTW, I like the track itself: Another Chris Clark inspired song, I take it. If I could better associate your edits visually with audible changes, I could watch this for extended periods, I think. Trial and error approach and the scrubbing repetition is bound to get to anybody after a while, I suppose.
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hecanjog
Not intending to hijack your thread! But you inspired me to give it a go myself: link
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Radio909
I'm loving how the tune is sounding. I use to work like this, adding a muted track with all random glitch in it and dropping cuts into the track. The synth sounds really nice too
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kenrestivo
Excellent! Thank you very much for this.
The only thing that might improve it, perhaps, would be overlaying some subtitles or voice-over explaining what you were doing and why. Like the dude who dit that MPC demo a while back.
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RogerRoger said: "I was riveted the entire time! Mostly trying to match your actions to changes in sound, and not really succeeding, but I caught a few things, like the reverse->forward clip pair. Why are they on seperate tracks?"
If i'm thinking of the same bit of the recording, It's like what radio909 described: here, two of the tracks that you see, (each has one long audio file on it) are a kind of 'grab bag' for glitchy stuff that i recorded earlier. So i grab little bits of audio from all the tracks that are laying in the arrangement, and a couple of the tracks are there _just_ for that purpose too.
These tracks are muted, if you look closely in the right hand column, they're missing a yellow smudge while the the tracks all have one!. So its only the bits that i copy onto other tracks that we hear.
Speaking of tracks, jeebus kriminy there's alot of 'em! I don't even know if Live lets you move them around visually so related ones are displayed next to each other, but that would be helpful.
Yes you can freely reorder the tracks. And sometimes i do group them according to the 'function' of their sounds (all detail-y percussive bits together). But i generally do this after i've laid stuff down, just because i don't plan ahead much 
What are the control strips on the right side, the sends and final mix?
Pretty much. channel level, pan, sends mute and solo buttons. In this clip i think i only use the mute and solo buttons
BTW, I like the track itself: Another Chris Clark inspired song, I take it.
Thanks. It's not a conscious attempt to make a clark-y song. But his sound certainly has been an influence.
If I could better associate your edits visually with audible changes, I could watch this for extended periods, I think. Trial and error approach and the scrubbing repetition is bound to get to anybody after a while, I suppose.
Yes. hecanjog's vid turned out miles better so I'll give iShow you another try (maybe with a less cpu heavy track) the next time. Which should make things a lot clearer.
kenrestivo said: "The only thing that might improve it, perhaps, would be overlaying some subtitles or voice-over explaining what you were doing and why."
The 'why' might be difficult, but i certainly could add some explanations in subtitles next time. Good idea.
hecanjog said: "i think a video quixit would be rad. 30 minute quixit, everyone must record themselves making the track. i'd eat that for lunch. omnomnomnom."
Would be excellent. It'd be technical and organisationally more difficulty than taking part in a regular mixit, but it'd be hugely informative to watch.
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ejectorset
im glad to see other people work this way too!
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