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Cleaning through my attempted tracks
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How many song files do you have that consist of just a few measures of a cool beat that at the time you thought was pretty pointless/dumb. I have like 120 reason files just like this and this weekend I have been listening to all of them and tweaking them and ripping them to wav for future attempts of importing them to live and making something cool one day.
Looking back at old work is really great, both for learning and a little morale boost. I never really do it. I figure that all my stuff sucks, well a lot of it does, but some times you find a few measures that were awesome even though they never progressed into a full song. As I grow as a musician its nice to go back and say, "hey, im not that bad after all." And maybe I can use those old things for something new(read effect apocalypse)
Anyway, how often do you guys go through old tracks and enjoy/expand on them.
I need to do this more often.
Too bad half of my files are either "neat", "neat cool", "fat beatz", "sucks", "total crap", or some variation of those.
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07/06/08
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Roshi
render them to loops, put them together for a live/dj set
Live is especially good for this.
07/06/08
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j_chot
that is my absolute FAVORITE part of live performances, I can mangle/mix/use incomplete songs. I have new incomplete songs every time I do a new performance. no 2 are the same.
07/07/08
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monty
you just reminded me of the dozens of tapes i've still to mix down.
plus ive got old tracks scattered over a couple hundred cds.
with different mixes, variations etc.
then theres all the jam session recordings that i still havent listened to.
i need to employ some kind of archivist.
i like listening to old stuff from time to time. its the nearest ive got to a diary.
07/07/08
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deltasleep
i periodically delete them all, especially when some big life changing event happens to me, because I know I am going to have to many incoming ideas to want to play with old ones.
07/07/08
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greeezybear
dont delete them delta, if anything just start fresh in a new folder, or hide all your old stuff.
after coming back to look at your music you can notice different places in which your style/technique/sound grows/evolves. its really fascinating.
07/07/08
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nightowl
i have more unfinished songs than finished ones. occasionally i resurrect one & try to finish it,
but most of my time goes to making new noises. i save them all becasue someday i might
have a collaborator with fresh ideas to help finish them.
07/07/08
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collapsicon
yes I too suffer from new-itis  I've kept pity much all my old jams/loops (FL). its the best sample library you can have because you made it.
and considering it can take quite a lot of time to sculpt things in the electronic domain why reinvent the wheel every time? capitalize on your past efforts.
also I think the thing is to remember just because you don't dig something at a certain time doesn't mean its no good, thing about your favorite songs I bet theres times when even they Annoy you right.
07/08/08
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nightowl
composers save scraps of music that are not complete for future use, they're called "trunk songs".
andrew lloyd weber used a melody he wrote when he was 3 years old (he was a prodigy) in one of his
musicals in the 90's.
07/09/08
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scu
I have loads of "middles" to songs that I have never finished. I usually keep them all. It's great fun to find them a few years later and think "What the hell?" or "Wow! I have to do something with this!" You never know...
It's just best to keep the files.
07/09/08
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AndrewBrewer
yes, keep everything. i started doing this w/ ableton, and it pays off. your working on a track and you think it needs a little something more ... you can just pull in bits an pieces from the unfinished stuff -- it might work.
07/11/08
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kenrestivo
I've released over 6 hours of material just over the last two years (since I got back into playing music again). Some of it is good, some is crap, and I find it very had to tell the two apart. Plus, I'm working in three bands now, two of which are improv/jam based and I've been recording every live show and rehearsal, which is already a couple dozen hours of material (some of which we've published). Then I have the folder with dozens of beats and melodies and little ideas and snippets, mostly dictated via voice into an H2, waiting to be sorted out. Not to mention the half-baked song ideas not yet published, and MIDI captures of my own practice sessions, and that's just over the last few years. I've also got hundreds of hours of stuff in tape format somewhere from 20 years ago, plus dozens of hours of digital recordings and MIDI files from 10 and 15 years ago... it's almost pointless even to try to sort this all out. But it's here.
A friend who is a comic takes a different approach. He doesn't bother remember funny stuff he comes up with on the spot, he instead tries to remember HOW he came up with it, and throws it away, and knows that it's easier just to come up with something better the next time around.
The same appears to be true of music, for the most part.
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