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Here's a little story I'd like to tell about an 80's Roland synth that you know so well...
After getting back from a trip out to the east coast of Canada I sat down in front of my synths on Sunday night to have a little play. I was sad to find that my mint Juno-106 finally succumbed to the dreaded "bad voice chip" problem that plagues all 106s. Not good, as the 106 has become my main go-to synth over the last few months.
I was planning on getting some of the 80017 clones from this guy link , but when my brother-in-law caught wind of what had happened, he offered to sell me his fully-working 106 for next to nothing! I had found that 106 for him locally maybe 3 months ago, but I didn't know that he was planning on selling it.
So now I have a fully working 106 again, and 5 working 80017s in reserve for when the next voice inevitably dies.
YES!!!
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09/18/08
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Roshi
I have a love/hate relationship with my 106.
I never sequence it, which makes me think I should trade it for a 6, but I love playing it and it can be inspiring on that level. It fits in a lot of my mixes nicely, even though it's not a flashy synth.
Also, good to know where to get voice chips.
09/18/08
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sohcahtoa
Roshi said: "It fits in a lot of my mixes nicely, even though it's not a flashy synth. "
That's exactly what I love about it. It's a great example of less being more. Really basic synthesis facilities, but it has a great sound that always seems to sit just right.
09/18/08
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RogerRoger
Yes, classic sound, even though imo a 106 sounds like a 106 and nothing else. Bummer about the inevitability of the voice chip failure. I've always found it fascinating how Roland could take a set of digital counter IC's and make them sound good. Really good Midi implementation on those as well.
Also, I wonder if the MKS7(Super Quartet) has the same voice chip problem for its poly section.
09/18/08
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madeofoak
i have a 6, and love it. way fatter sound than the 106 imo, but not programmable, no sequencing, and no portamento (a biggie for me). great old-timey arpeggiator though.
nice nab on the synth though! have you ever tried saving the voices on a cassette? crazy.
09/18/08
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sohcahtoa
I'm not sure about the MKS-7, but in researching the problem I was surprised to find that the MKS-30 also uses the 80017A and suffers the same issues.
I'd LOVE a 6 or 60. I passed on a cheap 6 last fall and have been regretting it ever since.
09/18/08
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adcBicycle
hey, i got a few extra voice chips from that very same guy... anyone need?
let me buy your busted 106 sohcahtoa ! I'm only one province away from you.
I'll fix it up ... and i'll even give you one of my chips for in case your good one bites the dust.
09/18/08
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sohcahtoa
Hehe, sorry adcBicycle, but my plan is to keep the sick 106 and use the currently working one for parts once it starts to go.
The 106 I have with a messed up voice was purchased new by some guy to "practice piano lessons", and ended up sitting in storage in a hard case for 15 years. It's the nicest 106 I've ever seen. When I first opened the case I could hear angels singing it was such a lovely sight. Even the wood finish on the bottom is pristine. I have to keep it.
09/18/08
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adcBicycle
ok, well if you change your mind... or if you want one of my chips let me know!
09/18/08
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minisystem
my 106 came all the way from new zealand. it was my main synth for 2 years. it developed the dreaded voice chip problem, but i was lucky and found a tech that replaced it and converted the power supply from 220 to 110 for 75 canuck bucks (about $50 USD at the time)!
09/18/08
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adcBicycle
looks like this is juno 106s in canada thread.
where the hell is cloudscapes!!?
link
09/18/08
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bla
theres currently a 106 at my house (not canada,sorry)
i havent used it though - but it does look nice - and its a lot bigger than i thought itd be
09/18/08
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jogn
My 106 died 10 minutes into usage. but it was given to me. no sound. nada. it's used as a flying buttress, synthetic as it were, to keep boxes from falling over till it's repented.
09/19/08
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slp
juno 60 was my first synth. oh yes, i regret selling it
edited: Sep 20 2008
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djugel
I highly suggest a Juno 6 over all. Except if you play in a live band and use many different sounds per song.
Otherwise .. The lack of patch memory is more of blessing. You won't get sick of it as much and pigeonhole yourself. Mono mode is great on the Juno 6 .. because it doesn't have that "Unison" sound. It cuts like a knife .. In most cases why it's "fatter" is because it actually has more high-end. Get's that "Can You Feel It" bass tone with the square wave and a bit of chorus.
The Juno 106 is a bit muddier .. but has it's perks too. It's funny acutally. It seems like many Roland synths have it's clean and mudd cousins.
Mudd --------> Clean
Juno 106 ------> Juno 6/60
JX8P -----------> JX10
JD800 ---------> D-50
etc..
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djugel
Also .. I used to think the Juno 106 as more a pad machine. But these days I really like the Juno 6 in just about every way over the 106.
It's an exciting instrument because many of my friends have them.. and they all sound totally different. Be it the machine and the player. My friend and I are starting a dark/almost new-age (JMJ!) band that's basically all based around the Juno 6. I should post some soon (every song has a video!). The outfit is called "MR 666"
I think you'd really dig it sohcah!
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