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From the rather prolific Dave Smith Instruments, the 8-voices analogue wonder that is the Prophet 08... here's my personal thoughts... I don't claim to be a specialist, it's really just my 2 cents as a musician for people who might consider buying the thing
First thing that should actually be said is that the Prophet 08 isn’t meant to be a recreation of the Prophet 5. Hence the name. I’d like to nice about it, but the truth here is that online comments about how the Prophet 08 isn’t a Prophet 5 are badly misguided, if not completely stupid. They’re tantamount to criticize the Oberheim Xpander from not being, say, an OBX. It’s a brand new synth for 2008. Now, is it indeed a true Prophet or not? Well, on the one hand I do think it is, but on the other hand I’m not really sure that I give a damn anyway because it sounds fantastic in its own right and comments like “I just played some Prophet 08 presets in a shop this afternoon and it’s not like a Prophet 5” make me, if not mad, at least slightly out of balance. That said, whether it's the good synth for you or not is matter of personal taste. Some people seem to think its sound it's too thin. I do believe it's rich and musical (possibly light on the low-end on pad sounds, but that's actually a bonus in my book, since it usually fits better in the mix for that very reason). Not all analogues need to be gritty... some, like the aforementioned Xpander, are smooth and sophisticated. The Prophet 08 fits in that category, while still being able of nasty, snappy sounds. In any case, it wouldn't be the first analogue gear to be found unimpressive by early "specialists", then to be considered a classic...
But enough with the geekery and to the point…
The synth is well-built, lighter than most polysynths, especially analogue. It is unfortunate that the power supply be a wall wart, but other than that, it feels like a serious piece of gear. The interface is clean and well thought, with solid knobs – note here that they are very sensitive, and endless rotary, something I don’t care much for since it prevents you from acknowledging the parameters of a sound at sight.
Audio examples (made by yours truly) :
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Sound-wise, what we’ve got here are 8 voices of good analogue signal, with a very sophisticated modulation system. More precisely, its analogue oscillators are digitally controlled, which ensures a very stable tuning while a special “slop” function takes care of the random drift we’re bound to expect. The result is most satisfying, and can be best described in good Trekkian fashion as “the best of both worlds” (and I promised myself I wouldn’t geek it up again…). You won’t get crazy over the oscillators going haywire at random, but at the same time the Prophet 08 sounds reasonably “sloppy”, as in “analogue sloppy”, not “G. W. Bush sloppy” (all right, all right, that was an easy one…).
More shiny audio examples:
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The Prophet 08 sound can be rich and smooth, even creamy, or – especially if you push the Audio Mod knob up – gritty and mean. The Prophet 08 makes excellent use of the stereo field too (you can “pan spread” the sound so that the voices are played alternatively on both sides, which can also be linked to the LFO), and the keyboard lets you control the sound with subtlety and character. Furthermore, each patch comprises two layers A and B, which can be stacked or split for deeper, more interesting sounds.
The return of the audio examples:
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Now, the shortcomings… First, while the low-pass filter can be set to 4 or 2 poles, it stands a bit lonely in there. A bandpass filter would have been nice too, and so would have been a sub-oscillator, in order to beef up some sounds, but then again, stacking up 2 or 3 Prophet 08 parts will already fill up much space in your mix without the single sounds having to be too thick. Furthermore, patches can be split on the keyboard, or stacked, and the unison mode guarantees you won’t have to worry about getting powerful leads.
Another minor bit of criticism, there’s an arpeggiator all right, and I’m always fond of that, but it doesn’t have a random mode. I don’t understand why, but I would qualify this as minor, because it can still be addressed in a further OS update. There’s also a primitive sequencer, useful to work out some grooves and complex sounds, but it’s a gated one, meaning that you have to press a note (or send one by MIDI to the synth) to make it work. Here again, I don’t quite understand the rationale behind that decision, but I guess I can live with it. More importantly, you can’t process external sound through the filter. That’s always a neat trick and it’s a shame the Prophet 08 is lacking it.
Overrall, the Prophet 08 is a great synthesizer, which should probably be preferred to most virtual analog synth in the same price bracket, especially if you go for the rack module. It’s not a workstation, and arguably it ain't the most complete polyphonic synth, but in a way, that's beside the point. The Prophet 08 is an instrument with its limitations, and there’s vast amounts of character and musicality here. It's complex enough to be versatile and thrilling to experiment with, but at the same time, elegant and straightforward, an instrument for musicians who don't care for fumbling through zillions of options and want something to play music with.
And for some analog noise:
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Specifications (from DSI's site)
5-octave keyboard with semi-weighted action, velocity, and aftertouch.
Spring-loaded pitch wheel and assignable mod wheel.
256 fully editable Programs (2 banks of 128) with 2 Layers (2 separate sounds) in each Program.
16 x 4 gated step sequencer.
Arpeggiator.
2 digitally controlled analog oscillators (DCOs) per voice with selectable sawtooth, triangle, saw/triangle mix, and pulse waves (with pulse-width modulation), and hard sync.
White noise generator.
1 Analog Curtis low-pass filter per voice, selectable 2- and 4-pole operation (self-resonating in 4-pole mode).
3 Envelope Generators: filter, VCA, and assignable (four-stage ADSR + delay); Envelope 3 can loop.
4 LFOs.
Glide (portamento): separate rates per oscillator.
Analog VCAs.
Dimensions: 12.1" (30.73 cm) W x 34.8" (88.39 cm) L x 3.875" (9.84 cm) H (2.25" at front edge; the feet account for 0.25" of the total height).
Weight: ~22 lbs. (9.98 kg).
Ins and Outs.
MIDI In, Out, Thru, and Poly Chain.
Main stereo audio output: 1/4" unbalanced.
Output B stereo audio output: 1/4" unbalanced.
Sustain pedal input: accepts normally on or normally off momentary footswitch.
Pedal/CV input: responds to expression pedals or control voltages ranging from 0 to 5 VDC (protected against higher or negative voltages).
Headphone output: 1/4" stereo phone jack.
Useful links:
Official DSI site : link
And a nice hi-res photo : link
In-depth reviews : link link link link link
Hi sound quality videos : link
And a Prophet forum (not very active, though) : link | |
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tylth
kool. keep it koming khoral
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skab
thanks for the review!
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bla
nice one!
if you put 'review' as a tag itd be handy for future searches
anyway- good work
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khoral
thanks, and good point, I've edited the tag
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dylan
i thought the omission of an audio input to use the prophet's filter and FX to process external audio was a bit of a disappointment.
does it have a muli-timbral mode, ala the poly evolver's combo mode?
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DrexonField
Excellent review! I wish I had one. 
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minisystem
i got one about 8 months ago. i like it a lot. sure, it isn't an instantly huge 70s polysynth like the prophet 5. with the small amount of time i spent with a prophet 5, the challenge seemed to be to try to get it to *not* sound huge. but with some careful programming the P8 can make some big, thick burpy noises, but to my ear it is more akin to some of the 80s japanese polysynths.
i'm not crazy about the rotary knobs and it would've been nice if they properly silk screened the chassis instead of using the printed peel-&-stick, but there aren't many options for a new analogue polysynth keyboard for under $2K.
11/16/08
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khoral
To my knowledge, the Prophet 08 isn't multitimbral (that's not a problem with me because I never use multitimbrality)
One cool thing you can do though is program a patch with two layers and output them separately, each one in stereo
I think in the end the Prophet 08 is somewhat to the Prophet 5 what the Little Phatty is to the Minimoog
Sort of... if they had tried to do another Prophet 5, it probably would have cost $1K more
What you say, minisystem, reminds me of what Gordon Reid said in his SOS review, that is, it apparently took him some programming work to emulate his favorite Prophet 5 patches, and when he did, the result was satisfying, and at the same time, somewhat different... because, well, it's a different synth after all
I really appreciate Dave Smith's effort to come up with something new that regular musicians can buy (in lieu of Moog Music rehashing their old glories with ridiculous price tags)
Then, of course, it's a matter of taste and how one works
I know that I prefer being able to build a mix with several rich, lush but not too thick Prophet 08 parts, instead of one big FAT polysynth pad
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cloudscapes
I've had one for a little over a year and it's a great synth! however I'm selling mine and getting a mono evolver keyboard in its place. my juno 106 is more than enough for my polyphony needs, and I can benifit more from the mono evolver for leads and crazy sounds than the P08
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khoral
I think the DSI line is quite balanced in terms of everyone's needs
And even more so when they release that good-looking analog/digital groovebox
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seanh
i am eagerly awaiting the linndrum II. i have a desktop evolver and a mopho, and i like both alot. i would like a prophet 08, but i would much rather have an analogue modular - one of these days when i find a deal i will get one.
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jogn
i wish the review section was back up.
11/17/08
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RRine
i love your review! I've played with the Prophet 08 and I totally agree with your views/pros/cons of this beatufiul synth.
The audio samples really bring the review to life. Nice work.
11/17/08
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khoral
Thanks a lot! I'll post some more reviews like that later on
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bla
sorry to be a pain but.... its not showing up in the search because theres a ' in the review tag
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