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Taxis
Impulse reverb?
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jogn
I bought the Earth Sounds Cedar Creek CD and played it to death. It's really great!
It's all about mike placement. I guess a simple approach would be to hard pan right & left a stereo track and play that through a convolution reverb of a space, like a small room. But those impulses are for point sources. If you've got cakewalk FX3, there's the ability to place the left or right sound sources in a spot of a simulated room as well as stereo mike placement.
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cloudscapes
thanks for the heads up on FX3! I've been meaning to try stuff like this too.
I sometimes use MDA Stereo for extreme stereo widening, though that flattens the source audio to mono pre-effect. Hard-panning a track left with a reverb reflection right and/or a copy of the stereo track with one channel phase-inversed and then reverbed can yield interesting results too.
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rrooyyccee
himmm. impulsive reverb may not quite be the same thing.
i believe one would need to model the ear, or use binaural microphones. here are some cheapies i'm considering:
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binaural recording would have to account for ear structure and your head, and would by definition only be good on headphones.
one might think ipods would be the perfect medium for binaural recording.
i'm wondering if i should distribute my songs in a range of formats,not for marketing reasons, but because the technology asks for it. it looks like binaural audio has never really taken off, but now that earbud headphones have become commonplace (perhaps more so than home or computer 5.1 systems), this would be of wider interest.
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i'm also interested because my experiences mixing in 5.1 have me convinced that 5.1 does change the way one approaches mixing. if that is true, it could also change the way one approaches writing music. it seems to me that computer speakers have changed the way electronic music sounds. glitch, for example, sounds fine on computer speakers. its a bit less impressive on a high quality stereo.
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Squeal
So are those little mics spose'ta go in your ear or what? I had alot of acoustics coursework in college and they used dummy heads. Why not use a real head?
Because of breathing noise.
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rrooyyccee
i was wondering about that, and jostling around.
so a dummy head is the way to go.
what i was wondering about was setting up a dummy head in the studio.
Then playing back tracks individually and mic'ing them with "the head". for playback, one might use monitors, or perahps more creatively, things like guitar amps, tube amps, little transistor radios with shitty speakers, megaphones, whatever.
that would make for a new kind of listening experience, perhaps.
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rrooyyccee
or am i getting this all wrong.
is the sound of e.m. the purest when transmitted directly from cd or harddisk?
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flies
binaural recording of synthetically panned multitrack recording seems like a kind of funny idea to me...
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jogn
Oh yeah about the FX3. I'm not too sure how it models the rooms really. It could be convolution or something else. You can also widen the distance between one mike to another, so a full 180 difference with some space in between would really make it just like a binaural environment.
I've always wondered about room/distance settings on convo reverbs. If the impulses are only valid for a certain position, then i guess that parameter is effected through extrapolation of the data. So perhaps if you got an impulse from the left ear and from the right, it's only valid for that space but would take into account the position of the ears.
09/16/06
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rrooyyccee
this looks something like conv. reverb, specifically for conversion to binaural recording:
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so far, hearing online examples of binaural audio, i am not at all blow away, but am still curious.
the examples i've heard. . . still the sounds sound like they are coming from the middle of my ahead (instead of in front or behind me).
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