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pd or max/msp?
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07/20/08 + ssb0

what are actuall differences nowadays?
i'm a total noob when it comes to programming but i really wan't to learn because i have a couple of ideas i can't realise in live.
so i was interested in max but i totally can't afford it. and then i saw pd(pure data).
is it so hard to learn that i would be better of sticking that time into working for an actual boss to make the money for max/msp or aren't the differences that big?
i wan't to use it for live sampling purposes(easy sampling of musicians and easy messing with that audio). maybe their are people using pd for that who can tell me more?

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07/25/08 + lematt

i mean i don't agree with randal's assumption: "max is overpriced". i think Live is overpriced. Not Max.

Recent blogs: musicians don't know how to spend their money ... hard life, i <3 processing, Ryoji Ikeda

07/25/08 + MattyBoJangl

Yes, Live is CRAZY overpriced. Esp. since they come out with a new ver. every year that you "have to" upgrade to.
Max is overpriced if you compare it to Pd, tho. ;)

07/26/08 + lematt

yeah ok... ok. but, if the thread has to take that direction: i'm am really underpriced most of the time ;)

Recent blogs: musicians don't know how to spend their money ... hard life, i <3 processing, Ryoji Ikeda

07/26/08 + MattyBoJangl

true, true. I like ur logic! Truthfully, they are both excellent software packages no matter how you look at it.

07/26/08 + randal

ok:

pd is like getting into a toyota camry that starts right up, and then driving wherever you need to go.

max/msp is like getting into a crazy cadilac suv but you have giant boxing gloves glued to your hands.

07/26/08 + randal

allright: the camry has no radio or ac either, and roll up windows. and in the cadilac you might have medium sized boxing gloves glued to your hands.

but the camry is free.

07/27/08 + lematt

ha ha ha .

LOL

Recent blogs: musicians don't know how to spend their money ... hard life, i <3 processing, Ryoji Ikeda

07/30/08 + NoSpin

i'm wondering which version of pd i should download

07/30/08 + cebec

you can change the fade and animation times, etc., in Max 5 to '0 ms' so the GUI behaves much snappier. check out the preferences.

07/30/08 + zach

randal said: "pd... has almost no color at all and is really kind of subliminally depressing..."

Yes. I love Pd and I use it... but that's a good way of describing its default look.

07/30/08 + MattyBoJangl

NoSpin:
Download the Pd-Extended version from link . They just released the new version today. It has a library of externals and abstractions (which you'll learn about after some reading) to give you extra tools. It also is easier to read than it used to be.

07/30/08 + NoSpin

MattyBoJangl said: "NoSpin:
Download the Pd-Extended version from link . They just released the new version today. It has a library of externals and abstractions (which you'll learn about after some reading) to give you extra tools. It also is easier to read than it used to be."

thanks. i downloaded pd-vanilla earlier and worked through some tutorials. i'll try this one out now

07/31/08 + ssb0

are there any big changes in this new version?

07/31/08 + randal

definitely get extended instead of vanilla, cus there are much more objects moog~, which is a good filter, and gate which is a useful thing in max etc.
thanks cebec Im gonna try that gui thing

07/31/08 + randal

oh here: these are helpful
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