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morgberg
Can the roland grid sequencers sequence rack samplers??
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morgberg
tap trigger samples?
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jarvis
usually each instrument is assigned to a midi note, so it can do simple sequencing but the number of notes you have available is limited to the number of sounds the drum machine has (at least on the 505/626/707/727).
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acidburn
yes.
set MIDI channels and note #s correspondingly.
consult your manual(s) for details
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acidburn
also you need a MIDI cable
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dkarma
rack samplers are kind of supposed to be used this way. they tend to have a crappy front interface because of the rack space limitations so I always assumed that you're supposed to trigger them externally. technically any midi controller capable of sending note on/off messages would work, but yes the tr line will do what you're asking. and yes you need a midi cable
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clarkq
i think some of them has the anti-feature of not sending midi while in step mode. might be wrong though. also the midi notes are extremely short
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nutjob
clarkq: yeah thats the tr707/727 - & as you say, they only output MIDI in track mode.
This is a problem as you need to be in pattern mode to write sequences... and since they're not outputting MIDI in that mode you have to write all your patterns using the internal sounds, and then switch to track mode, add your pattern to the track, and only then do you get to hear what it sounds like with your MIDI gear. It practically negates their usefulness in this context.
The tr626 doesn't have this problem, however it has other peculiarities where some internal sounds are deemed mutually exclusive and overwrite each other in the sequence.. this translates to weird behaviour with external gear, as some of the MIDI notes that are available for your to use for sequencing end up inheriting this mutually exclusive behaviour. Anyone know if the tr505 has this problem - the 626 & 505 appear to be cousins...
Also the tr626 / tr505 have little LCD screens instead of LED lights which is a downside imo.
tr 909 is weapon of choice as it has an 'external instruments' track containing separate data to the internal sequence. The downside of course being price. Mine is busted (dead micro processor!) and I'm seriously considering buying another 909 to replace it.
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dkarma
yeah but what are the 909s running now 900?
i've never used teh 707 to send midi, I just bend them and throw midi INTO them.
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bla
set your sampler voice to 1 shot trigger if the drum machine is only giving it tiny little notes
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zifcak
nutjob said: "
tr 909 is weapon of choice as it has an 'external instruments' track containing separate data to the internal sequence. The downside of course being price. Mine is busted (dead micro processor!) and I'm seriously considering buying another 909 to replace it."
don't! you can get a new microprocessor and replace it, or get someone to burn you a really cheap eprom with the latest operating system. pm me for more details.
as far as sequencing, yeah, the 909 is the best TR for it. the 909 shuffle is the best too, based on 48 ppq for finer resolution. i think there's even accent on the external sequence.
my recommendation though would be an er-1. as cheap as the old cheap TRs, but much more flexible. for one thing, you can change patterns in write mode while it's running, something i don't think any of the TRs can do. also, the shuffle resolution is really fine, finer than the 909. also, the er-1 has a pretty cool little beepy synth engine in it. ooh, and external inputs for gating/ringmodding the sampler.
it does suck about the drum machine note length limitation, the sequencing style is awesome. there's no other option cheaper than going all out with an mpc. oh yeah, i think the rx5 gives you control of note length per pad. however it's HUGE and has the write mode/no switching problem.
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dkarma
you can probably pick up the e*-1 line for less than a 707 these days.
the last ea that went on here went for 70 bucks...i think infradead snagged it.
those "vintage" tr 707s are getting price - upwards of 150 in good condition.
so +1 for the ea-1
I used to own one and it was super bassy
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sohcahtoa
Price-wise the Yamaha RS7000 lives between an Electribe and an MPC. It's really powerful when it comes to grid-style sequencing. You can enter steps over the entire MIDI note range (i.e. up to 128 instruments/samples per pattern). You can set gate time and velocity per note. It has a very powerful "grid-groove" mode where you can set note-offset, timing-offset, velocity-offset, and gate-offset per each 16-th note in a measure using the same x0x style interface. So you can do stuff like "make steps 1,5,9,13 louder, and make steps 3, 7, 11, and 15 a bit late" really quickly.
There's a sampler built-in as well, but the downside to that is that it uses sucky SmartMedia cards. It's also a big honkin' box that looks a bit like a cash register.
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infradead
emu's command station line has a damn fine grid sequencer as well..
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dkarma
LIES!!! :0P
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