11/10/11 + flies
I've been listening to XLR8R podcasts pretty regularly for the year or so, and, damn, dance music today is so much more spastic and off the wall than it was when i was a kid. IDM as a genre is long dead, and good riddance. It was getting bogged down in all kinds of weirdness, the richard devine rabbit hole where weird, unidentifiable FX=music.
Kids who grew up listening to the IDM of old, push, ae, afx, BoC, these kids are now running the show. They've fused their more armchair oriented antecedents with more traditional dance music to create something that is IMO truly wonderful. link
My point: the experiments of IDM have made their way into the main stream of dance music. The "post-dubstep" thing that's been happening in the last few years is nothing if not proof that dance music can be complex rhythmically, texturally, melodicaly harmonically. In the opinion of your humble servant, none of this would be possible if not for warp records, planet mu, merck, and their ilk. It's a great time to be a fan of intelligent dance music.
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12/08/11 + flies
All I'm saying is that the "mainstream" electronic dance music sounds like the armchair techno of Warp 10 years ago. Dubsteppers are going gonzo with FM and voice-synth bass-lines. Drum tracks include a wider array of samples outside the typical drum/drum machine samples. Little tricks with effects find their way into 4-to-the-floor beats. These are all things I used to like about IDM, and I'm glad because they're showing up all over the place.
Maybe it's not specifically the influence of IDM on the producers (though apparently it is for Dorian Concept and, for instance, Lone), maybe it's just that the technology/software tools that IDM heads were exploring is more easily available.
Whatever the causes, mainstream dance music sounds like IDM more than it ever has, and I like it.
12/08/11 + monkvolcano
lol i'm with you flies.
12/09/11 + djugel
yeah.. but I heard it 10 years ago... and it was played out then.
either way.. I got to say that it's funny some people's panties are all in a bunch cause of Skrillex being nominated... because I find Bon Ivor being nominated much more offensive...
12/11/11 + quip
i like alot of this post-dubstep, whatever its called music.
got the nice bits of rave, with more interesting rhythms, good balance of old and futuristic sounds.
think you have to always have one eye on the past and one eye into the future... so thats why lots of producers are nicking the idm stuff. but as people have said thats what they have been listening to as they grew up...
think kuedo is great. my mates not into it but i like it loads
think the wobble dubstep has had its day and people are (naturally) doing more interesting things, with rhythm texture and arrangements. rather than just big drops.
also you noticed its fine to use samples from films again?
Dec 12* + djugel
Don't think the big drops are leaving anytime soon... as long as kids are standing there with feet planted and dancing with their hands in the air... nothing is going to change.. . they are not there for liberation... quite the opposite actually...
Techno/rave is dead ... progressive is/has been here to stay...
12/23/11 + flies
djugel: i'd be interested to know what you think of link , seems like pretty decent techno to me...
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