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Theres a certain gritty crunch to 'snare' type percussion sounds that chris clark (among others) does very well. Here's a way of approximating a similar sound.
An 808 clap sample has the same quality. Inspecting the waveform close up reveals several transient peaks very closely spaced in the the 'attack' portion of the sound (simulating the slight lack of syncronisation when x number of people attempt to clap at the same time).
You can pull this same trick on a variety of non-clap samples as long as they have a nice brief peak transient at their onset (if they don't, make one).
Quickly and dirtily in live: zoom in, copy the attack transient of your percussive hit and paste it one or two times prior to the 'beat'. vary the pitch or some other kind of modulation if you like. When played back, the copied transients shouldn't be independently identifiable. They should all still sound as though they are one 'hit' but now with that certain crunchy raspy crackling something.
Experiment with the positioning of the completed sound. having the initial 'hits' begin slightly before the beat tends to give an effect that i like. | |
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bla
ok, good work, now figure out how to make 'precisely random' noise
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cbit
whats that bla? sounds intriguing..
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bla
i just mean like white noise thats somehow exactly random (almost not random at all really but sounds the same)
can you program something to have no perceivable structure in a definite structured way? (with no random numbers)
1 of 'every' frequency? but not starting at the beginning so its all out of phase (but not exactly out of phase..)
maybe it doesnt exist........
hmmmmmmm but what about those 808 hats that are made of detuned square waves that sound like noise?
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cbit
sorryman, i'm completely lost 
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mlbot
Exactly Random would be a good song title. But bla lost me, too.
Thanks for the tip cbit! You should start a weekly series: cbits tips
or cbip's tits.
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jdg
exactly random would be good title for any work.
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electrodan
whoa man, like chaos - random orderliness.
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SenorFrio
cbit rulz!
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mlbot
So is that pic from a chris clark track?
I had always assumed there was a little bit of bit crunching going on... or just plain clipping....
Mild Clipping (whether it be 16bit or 12 -bit) can take your snare, which has 1 very rapid attack transient, and make it a snare, now with 1 longer attack transient.... kinda like your 3-attacks, but less transient/repeats and more just lengthening one noise transient.
Whatever the case, I propose we call this new technique "Cbit reduction"
edited: Jan 22 2007
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cbit
the image: the clap wave image is from that creative commons smapple site. i superimposed a photograph of me clapping, and to make sure it wasn't too vague i added the word 'clap' to it.
the clipping trick is useful too.. i guess i miss the link between 'reduction' and the multiple transients trick?
yeah i'm sure theres loads of clipping/extreme compression/limiting going on in cc tracks.. aswell.
also: i will try to grow some respectable moobs in preparation for the tits series.
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mlbot
Well, an uncliiped waveform will have just a few wave cycles peak at 0dB.
While a clipped (or bit reduction that doesn't scale, just flattens out the lost 4 bits of data) percussive sound will have many cycles reach 0dB, pretty much one right after another.
Your clap sound has many cycles reach 0dB, but there is quieter audio inbetween them.
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cbit
ahh i see. haha your mind works in an odd way ;)
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sAMsKi
*votes for a regular cbits tips blog*
...hehe...many thanks for the top tip sir.
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INKEYstrng
"yes stereo widening: IS - a regular chorus effect works pretty well for that (just delaying l,r channels by varying amounts). Try not to widen the sub bass though, thats best left mono. depending on the source material you might have to add some kind of 'bass mono-izer' processor after the widener, if the widener doesn't have a bass filter of its own."
-cbit
Alright, so it is what i had speculated it was. just wasnt exactly sure. I would probrobly end up saving a copy of the original sample to preserve the bass, then paste it underneath the new widened sample. unless i wanted to destroy the bass.
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yghartsyrt
haha i lost you there aswell bla.
that was a nice blog. and i certainly enjoyed that.
i'd prefer ctits knits
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