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Cymbals... I've wondered about this for a while, this "instrument" without a cohesive frequency that we use in most of our tracks.
I had a minor epiphany today... which is probably something that you all already knew... but thought I'd voice my ignorance anyway...
Cymbals by their nature have all frequencies (or many anyway), so we likely enjoy cymbals in a mix because chances are at least one of their frequency bands will cut through the others... therefore it's the easiest instrument to mix, and the easiest to hear in a mix.
What think you?
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jdg
not white noise, pink noise!
1/f bitches!
02/20/07
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nagrom
Why do we use bass snare and hihats too?
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jdg
cuz u dont want the ghost of elvin jones to haunt your ass.
02/20/07
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utofbu
we use bass because we love da ass, snare because we like to punch people in the face sometimes, and the high hat because sometimes we need max roach to play just the high hat and be a real man on it.
tom toms are because of boobies.
More later.
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SenorFrio
Cow-Bells & White Noise
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energygiant
why do we use thimbles?
thats why!!!!
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monkvolcano
the whole chinese alphabet is made of cymbals for christ sakes.
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lunatinker
i cut cymbals to milliseconds. short.sharp.shock. nice. big crashing things make my head hurt. that's why I never go outside. or listen to JDG mixes. or use a hammer. kidding.
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Raaphorst
I love Steward Copeland's hihats and ouie Bellson's cymbals
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Raaphorst
bad typos Louie Bellson I mean of course!
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Otterfan
some smart guy at Caltech said: "At least one member of each instrument family (strings, woodwinds, brass and percussion) produces energy to 40 kHz or above, and the spectra of some instruments reach this work's measurement limit of 102.4 kHz. Harmonics of muted trumpet extend to 80 kHz; violin and oboe, to above 40 kHz; and a cymbal crash was still strong at 100 kHz. In these particular examples, the proportion of energy above 20 kHz is, for the muted trumpet, 2 percent; violin, 0.04 percent; oboe, 0.01 percent; and cymbals, 40 percent."
Not why I love them, but still pretty special. linky
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kidko
I think in the old days of orchestral music, when they composed pieces about mythology, the cymbal was a perfect instrument to represent clashing of swords and spears against shields and armor. I still like them for that.
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flies
[img]http://hometown.aol.com/drumonics/cymbalFFT.jpg[/img]
here's a spectral analysis of a cymbal.
As you can see, there are very pronouced resonances, it's not just noise! most of the resonances from this particular cymbal are between 2 and 6 khz (if i'm reading the graph right), which is the area of our hearing that we hear loudest (see fig 2 link ). with sharp, loud peaks in our ear's most sensitive region, it's no wonder cymbals cut through!
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flies
[img= link ] (how do i embed images?
here's a spectral analysis of a cymbal.
As you can see, there are very pronouced resonances, it's not just noise! most of the resonances from this particular cymbal are between 2 and 6 khz (if i'm reading the graph right), which is the area of our hearing that we hear loudest (see fig 2 link ). with sharp, loud peaks in our ear's most sensitive region, it's no wonder cymbals cut through!
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j_chot
i absolutely love the way the cymbals sound on all those old beatles recordings, it's like this huge wave of noise behind them
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