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From ArsTechnica link
ars said: "It might not seem like it, but it's been almost five years since Apple acquired the German company Emagic and made their Logic "music creation" software part of their growing line of professional applications. Two short years after the acquisition in January of 2004, Apple showed off a new application called GarageBand aimed at the consumer market and packaged it with their iLife software, in essence creating a "lite" version of the application they had bought two years earlier.
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Today we received some news on the Logic front, but it wasn't from Apple and it wasn't really news per se, it was more of a rumor from a former Emagic employee, oh and it was in French. Luckily for us Create Digital Music is in the know and pointed us to the original post on Gear Slutz (erm.) which, in turn, pointed us to the original post on the French blog.
Basically the rumor is this: There will be no Logic 8. The successor to Logic 7 will have a new name. The unnamed application will be 10.5 only and will work with a new line of touch sensitive Apple displays. Also, it will be an OMG PROTOOLS KILLER!@!!" | |
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02/28/07
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tantan
my dongle is touch sensitive
02/28/07
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electrodan
fredo said: "I can hack it"
hang in there cowboy
03/01/07
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Fredo
 great movie moment, that.
03/04/07
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estevan
Logic is already a Pro Tools Killer.
03/05/07
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ignatius
estevan said: "Logic is already a Pro Tools Killer."
well, in some ways sure but in a studio envirnoment where someone is recording/editing performances ina ful band and basically using a computer like a tape machine logic can't really compete. the audio editing etc in logic is pretty stupid sometimes. something like nuendo or the Radar is way more on the ball with audio features. but for people like use using software to produce music logic has many awesome features that pro tools doesn't but pro-tools is getting better midi funcionality all the time. i just wish they would allow you to use it w/any audio hardware instead of having to buy some lame ass m-box or something.
03/05/07
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astroid
hear hear ignatius. like a nice apogee convertor. mmmm. i do love my protools tho.
03/05/07
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Fredo
I just had a f'ing nightmare with Logic in the period that I was preparing my stems for mastering sessions...
What I have been doing to backup all these songs which have been made over the last three years is save the projects as new ones onto a new big hard drive, and then backing that up to dvd. So when I openned those projects I expected things to be the same... big surprise: many of my stereo bounces (in some songs every single one) were now mono, although the track setting was clearly set to stereo. To fix this I had to create a new track, make it stereo and manually add all the effects, saving the old settings and adding them manually as well. It was dreadful. If Logic is not updated soon to a non-buggy version I will be making a swift leap away to ProTools as well. It is terrible to think that after saving a file things could change out of your control.
03/05/07
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bleen
how did you make those bounces, fredo? did you change the output object to mono for some tracks and then forget to switch it back to stereo? in my many years of using logic i've never had this happen to me or heard of it happen to anyone else, so my first thought here is operator error, which is the cause of MANY so-called logic "bugs" (i'm not picking on you, BTW!)...
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Fredo
No, I have never done that. These are individual audio tracks within the song, not output objects, and I have had tons of other bugs... midi files getting corrupted, etc...
These are definitely not operator errors, bleen. Here's an example... my song "Let the Sad Out" is very old. So I looked for the original file which hadn't been touched for years. I saved that as a new project. Left it without touching that for two months. Then went to export the stems. Listening it sounded strange. Then soloing the drum track bounce noticed it was mono, although the audio track was still set to stereo. I created a new audio track, set it to stereo and moved the bounced file down to that track. Voila it played in stereo. So basically the original audio object that the file was associated with had just gotten corrupt or something. Same thing happened with a number of stereo audio objects in Death of a Son, but in Let the Sad Out it was ALLLLL of them!
Please explain to me how this could be user error.
(edit Just to be totally clear... it is not the whole SONG that is suddenly mono, but just individual audio objects withinn the song.
03/05/07
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Fredo
I guess one way to prove that it is not an operational error is to ask you if it's even possible to make a stereo audio object play in mono... so the track is visually representing itself as a stereo track but just that one audio object plays back through stereo outs as mono... Can you do that?
03/05/07
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bleen
sounds like it could have been a plug-in instance that got switched to mono; if you go back to the project that had the mono drums and bypass all the plug-ins on the drum track, is it stereo again?
also, how did you create the bouces for the stems?
03/05/07
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Fredo
I solo'd the tracks that I wanted to isolate and bounced...
It definitely is the plugin that was causing the trouble... but on alllllll the tracks.....???? How could something like that happen? I honestly didn't do anything with this song for many many months and last I left it it there were no problems...
03/05/07
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Fredo
and the same thing happened to lesser degree on many other songs, at least 5 actually.
03/05/07
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bleen
is it a particular plug-in?
03/05/07
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Fredo
no, and all use Logic plugins.
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