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It's not what you got, its what you do with it.
Author: Rivel on April 01 2007
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--> I always believed "it's not what you got it's what you do with it" when it comes to making electronic music, or any kind of art. Every once in a while though, I will meet the kat who has more than adequate gear and usually isn't that proficient at making or mixing music. It’s like in middle school when the rich kid gets the fancy guitar and can't play worth a crap. The poor kid will eventually get a POS git and blow the rich fool out of the water, because he wants it that much more! Having cheap gear makes you work harder at creating a better and more original sound. Whether all you use is just one tracker, or an old ass drum machine, if you are proficient, the rich dudes will always be saying "how does he do that?" A friend of mine used to scratch on belt drive turntables and now he has some HQ stuff and blows away the competition. Start out with the Fender Squier of equipment and when the time comes move on to the Les Paul quality. I'm still buying the cheap crap (cause I’m still poor haha) and am having just as fun a time as anyone else. I know there is a finite end to my logic where you cannot surpass the quality of the equipment you have, but when that time comes, buy the good stuff!
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I just wanna make awesome sounds that make people want to headbang/dance.

i used to think my first real guitar, an ibanez roadstar, was holding me back, so i shelled out for a stratocaster. then, a few years later, i started studying with this jazz guy who can hold his own with anyone. his axe of choice was an ibanez roadstar.

so, when it comes time to invest something, save your money & invest some time.

I think though that you'll find that after a certain amount of time with the crappy equipment, you'll definitely realise how shit equipment really limits you.

nice blog. I hope someone gets in a fight about what the best guitar is. I miss that.

I've known people who just kept buying the 'best' gear, and never got around to learning it, never got around to actually producing anything with it, and eventually replaced it because it was 'outdated'.

These are good people to buy from, because they think if it's outdated, then it shouldn't cost as much as when they bought it.
See, I'm just trying to see the positive side of all this.

That said, I enjoy cheap gear not just because it's what I can afford, but because it speaks to "The People". OK even I don't believe that...

i agree. i started on shit computers, no sampler or anything. i do have quite a bit of gear now though. i wouldn't say my music has got any better although its perhaps easier to get a better quality of sounds. shitty fx pedals and a guitar and sampler go a long,long way and i still use my old squier on every recording....

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This is still more obsession about the gear. Its not the gear that makes the music. If you can't get in the right mindset and have the right attitude, it doesn't matter if you have abbey road or a gameboy in front of you.
Obsession with gear will destroy your music output. Obsessing about how much to have, how little to have, what kind to have, anything. If you are thinking about equipment, it's a sidetrack.

this endless debating about gear is killing my musical output
jetsom said: "There is a train of thought that people seem to kind of latch onto that you should be able to make even the most basic equipment work for you, otherwise you don't deserve anything else. Sometimes I think these 'truths' are damaging because you can read a lot into that. As a youngster, I read 'If I can't make Carl Craig <insert most admired artists here> quality production on this equipment soon, I obviously wasn't meant to do this & have no talent for it (whatever that is)', which is - fair enough - a paranoid mixture of hand me down 'truths'. People need to talk this nonsense through more. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's carried bullshit ideas like that round with me like a millstone round the neck for years, holding you back. I think if you want to find out what you're good at, you need to get rid of this shit & start digging, without these dumb limitations."

yes definitely. Sometimes the good gear enables you to work in a certain way, and the cheaper version just doesn't. I experienced this a couple of times over the years quite starkly. 1. Trying to learn to scratch on a belt drive turntable (don't even think about it!) you _need_ a strong (usually expensive) direct drive deck to even begin learning that. 2. Trying to learn to finger drum on a mpd16 (sucks, same warning). mpd24 is 100times better, in both cases the difference in build quality made the difference between being able to make progress toward making the kind of music i wanted to make, and not being able to.

Short version: sometimes cheap crap handicaps you, sometimes you need the good stuff.

You know what the problem is? Because we're mostly into fringe experimental music, it really doesn't quite matter how you get your sounds, just as long as it is recorded. But, if you're after a certain sound/style/etc, it's going to be really difficult if you just limit yourself out of choice.

Luckily it's cheaper and easier these days to get the sound you want without spending a bomb. So just do it and make music i say.

Making something is really all that is required of you. Those people (you know the ones) who do the comparisons.. Keep on making stuff will make them look like they're standing still.

Then, when you feel comfortable making stuff. Consider an Audience, and think about what you are doing and how it will be listened to and understood.

Find an artist you admire, and do the comparison yourself.

You can't make good music with expensive gear and no talent.
You can make good music with cheap gear and talent.
But certain sounds can only be achieved using stuff that costs a bit.
What a revelation!

I agree, at some point you just want clean line ins, phat preamps and good microphones.

BT disagrees with you all

Re: Deltasleep's point about the negative impact of obsessing over gear. I think it's probably true that some nerdy people will obsess over gear under the delusion that it will make them into great musicians when really they should be wielding soldering irons or programming patches for the people who have artistic talent. However, I have experienced a degree of obsession which, when finally satisfied, has resulted in my creating some of the best music I've ever made. It's like a track inside me that wanted to be made knew that it needed that instrument or effect to be realised. I also actually find that I will draw inspiration from new equipment, especially if it's old. When I think of the best music I've made, almost all of it was made immediately after acquiring a piece of equipment integral to its creation.

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