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strange bedfellows
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Author: minisystem on April 23 2007
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was browsing through my lady's medical magazine and came across this. i know there are a few scientists lurking around here who probably have daily dealings with Elsevier's journals - maybe you knew this already, but this is pretty weird news to me.

I mean, I was a little miffed when GE Healthcare bought up Amersham and my favorite ECL reagent and nitrocellulose was now being sold to me by the same company that's involved in evyerthing from machine guns to nuclear missiles., but other than teasing the sales reps, I never really thought much more about it.

Further proof that I have to move to the farm and build a really high fence.
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Strange.

Honestly, it has always made me uncomfortable that journals are owned by companies. Federally funded research has to pay for publication in company-owned journals.

I really like the new open access journals for this reason.

Anyway, that was kind of off topic, sorry.

Sounds like the editorial staff of the Lancet is pretty outspoken...it will be interesting to see how Elsevier deals with it, if at all.

And I'm glad that someone said it.

selling cluster bombs and riot control equipment? that's pretty bad for a company in the medical business. thanks for bringing that to my attention, roshi.

yeah. its weird. these seemingly incongruent arms of the same company always kind of freak me out. simultaneously dealing in healthcare and weapons just seems to be the most extreme example of 'diversification'.

i'm impressed that the lancet is making such a fuss. hopefully worlds most important and influential medical journal will win out over small arms fair business.

for uttering the phraser "my favorite nitrocellulose and ECL reagent" I sentence you to copy down the entire contents of this blog link

PS, my employer just sent me a message today clarifying my job

"A person appointed as a Postdoctoral Researcher is one who seeks to gain research experience under the guidance of a faculty mentor and receive a salary as an at-will OHSU employee to perform research. An at-will employee can be terminated at any time, for any lawful reason, with or without notice."


Isn't that great! I'm here by my own will, and they can fire me with no notice (or severance pay, or pay out any unemplyment benefit afterwards, etc etc)

Too much time on the old em411, mlbot?

Or is that HR talking?

I remember when I was working as a temp to hire here, they would never fail to remind me that I could be fired at any time, and I had no rights, no health insurance, nada.

we should all be happy that we live in a place where employment is so dynamic.
From a fortune cookie:

"May you live in interesting times".

Or maybe it wasn't a fortune cookie.

"i feel pretty imcompetent. luckily i wasnt hired for my competence."

yeah. being a postdoc is the BEST.

the

BEST.

when an employer wants to get rid of you if its legal or not they will find a way to try to justifiy them letting you go... now if that justification is legal or not is up to a lawyer to find out and a judge to decide, no matter what an employer says, if you have not signed any thing saying that you can not take legal action against them you ALWAYS have the right to legal reprisentation to fight for your rights as a worker.

we dont get paid enough to hire lawyers.

In fact, we are technically self-employed... we dont work for a salary, but for "the experience of learning under a mentor".

And as we know

experience is what you get when you don't get what you want

there is no such thing that you dont get paid enough to hire a lawyer... that my friend is a poor excuse.
if a labor or social justic lawyer thinks you have a case they will do whats called a contingency agreement where they get 30 percent of the final settelment out come. So really if you honestly ever feel that you have been served with an injustice there is always a way to try to have justice served.
we live in canada not some 3rd or 4th world country where the justice system might be corrupt or non exisitant, one of the most important things canada has to project its people is the human rights charter and when it comes to human rights violations the courts tend to rule in the favor of people and not the corps... things like wrongfull dissmissals as taken exteemly seriously in canada... if we were in the us or mexico I would be like yes there is no recource but we are in canada you have rights so exersize them!!! that is why we pay taxes, so that there is a social welfare net for people in situations like that. to be honest with you that email reminder that you got about your job is considered a threat, I world forward it to your personal email account at home full headers and talk to the labor board or the human rights commission or even just consult with a lawyer about it the first phone call is free for them to assess your situation if its worth while for them to take on your case.
so in all honesty the we dont get paid enough excuse doesnt fly at all in canada especially in Ontario where the human rights code is taken extreemly seriously... in fact there has recently been laws put into place regarding threats or mistreatment in the work place...
you might have a decent case on your hands...
good luck


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