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Live Looping w/ the FCB1010
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I've had this idea to do live looping through Ableton with instruments, but I never found a good option to make it easy ... until I saw the Kid Beyond youtube video. Man that got me thinking. So I saved up and bought the FCB1010 and thought it would be all easy ... and boy was I wrong! I got so freaking frustrated with it, then put it away for a few months cause my girlfriend and I were moving downtown to the SE side. So after we got settled in, I went back to the FCB, and joined the yahoo group for the 1010, which was a big help!
Damn there's a steep learning curve, but once it's all midi programmed that thing is amazing! I haven't gotten the expression pedals down yet though. I'm using it solely to do live looping via Ableton. My buddy plays the drum kit, hand drums, bass, and sax, and I do the electronics, tabla, sitar, guitar, didgeridoo, and other noise makers. All we need is my Mbox's 2 inputs, one being a line in, and the other using an SM57. We just finished our first track yesterday that I'll put up as soon as my neighbor's wireless internet connection I'm "using" gives me a fast enough signal. We're sounding kinda like Kruder & Dorfmiester, cause Nathan's musical input is more funky and sexy, while I'm more ambient and downtempo.
In this first track, we begin with a long looping pad, then we throw in a pre-made drum loop to keep us on tempo. Then, I loop the main synth lick, following with Nathan looping the bass. Next he loops a beatboxed lick, and then I make 3 tabla loops (2 simple patterns and one complex). Add in the Soundhack Spectral Shapers/pluggo plugins to effect certain parts, and bring certian loops down for the breakdown, then build it back up with variations of the patterns. I think by the end of the summer we'll be ready for live shows here in PDX.
I've found the hardest thing is to keep on beat, but that just takes practice. So every Sunday we get together to jam n' loop. Anyone else using the FCB1010??? | |
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05/15/07
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mapmap
Yeah Ted is right. i never stop raving about augustus loop + the fcb 1010.
my entire unrecognizable now set is based around Ableton Live and Augustus Loop (controlled by the 1010)
that pedal is such a fucking pain to program. I never got past the first three memory slots.
the only bad thing about augustus loop is that it doesn't like 3/4 time.
05/15/07
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dach
where do we get mp3 of the stuff mentioned in the original post. didgeridoo,tabla and sitar, me wanna listen!
05/15/07
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sweettrip
well, i havent played live in like 6 month so i havent revised or re-rehearse my set, but if i remember correctly i have the pedalboard connected to my uc33e, in Live i assign two unused MIDI tracks to channel 2 and 3, i think 2 being the POD and 3 the Quadraverb. the POD and the Quad are set to receive on those channels as well, and then i set some of the pedals to send to those two channel for whatever need may be. i only use one expression pedal for the Quad to bring in reverb in and out. for the POD i was just switching presets; never even tried to switch individual effects, but i'm sure it should work fine and pretty natural. the rest of the pedals trigger scenes in Live...
05/15/07
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lematt
there's a lot of pedals on this toy !!!
i wouldn't be able to use it drunk 
05/15/07
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opticecho
Here's how I have mine set up, very simple:
I use the top 5 pedals to activate/deactivate record automation for tracks 1-5 in Abletion on bank 00, on the FCB and 6-10 on bank 01 and so on. The bottom pedals are to begin recording or stop recording a loop. We only use the first 3 banks cause I don't think we'll have over 15 loops at once. I actually don't think we'll have over 10 going. So that's it. Usually my friend and I switch between someone at the cpu effecting sounds or switching pads in reason or whatnot, while the other is setting up for the next recorded loop/mic placement due to the amount of instruments we use.
That's just how it is now. We may want more options as soon as we keep practicing and find other options and possibilities. It's a lot of fun experimenting with new options and sounds now that we got it programed
05/15/07
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opticecho
I'll try to get a track up when I get home from work. It'll be pretty bare bones, but you'll get the idea ...
05/16/07
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opticecho
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Just the backbone of the 1st track we wrote, but you can get the picture of the process ...
05/16/07
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Tripnik
Yeah, I've had mine for several years now and it really is incredibly useful. The manual that comes with it is pretty worthless, but programming it isn't hard at all...just incredibly time consuming. I think I only have banks 0-4 programmed on mine. I use it to control max. I find the expression pedals kind of worthless...they're so lightweight that it's difficult to use them with any subtlety. When you touch them with your foot at all they move. I tend to use them more as toggle switches than anything else (full heel position, off, full toe, on).
06/09/07
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orac808
just got a fcb101, similar aspirations.... as yet still a but stuck. seems every on gets stuck with this thing. im about to give it another go. i think my plan of action will be find a set up file to dump onto it that has alredy been made to save me from midi hell(i just dont have the time). look forward very much to jamming with others when i get it down though.
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