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Build me a filter!
Author: adcBicycle on September 10 2007
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--> I want a nice filter. I was thinking a sherman, but now I'm thinking maybe I can get what I want with a modular (one of astroid's suggestions).

I'm thinking of getting the blacet kits and build it myself, 5 modules would fit nice in a rack and I imagine 5 modules would be about the same price as a sherman.

I want this for inputing instruments, so don't need any oscillators.

What do you think, is it better to get a sherman or blacet? If blacet, which 5 kits would you get: link

thanks!!!!
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u dont want osc? osc for modulations?! !!!

Oh... maybe I do... right.
See, this is exactly why I posted this.

maybe two lfoīs on top of the oscīs

get a ming rod!

Improbability Drive 2510
I/O 2225
Filthy Filtre 2310
Micro LFO 2430
EG1 2070
!

Ah ha... The giant of energy says no osc !

get that for christmass

I'm curious, since I've recently considered and abandoned a similar idea, are you thinking of going modular to save money or to get a configuration more suitable to your wants/needs than the Sherman offers?

If you were to create a match to the Sherman by parting out modules, you'll likely find it'll cost you more going modular, even with kits. Add up a rack, PSU, two SV filters, midi-to-cv, 2 envelope generators, VCA, LFO (and that's excluding some things you get in the Sherman), you're looking at roughly the same or more for what the Sherman goes for. And the Sherman will probably retain a better resale value, since the modules were all kits and soldered by you (not an insult, but I would pay more for second-hand modules assembled at Blacet than kits, for sure).

But if you really just want a modular, you'll probably want at least one ADSR envelope generator.
Yep shamnn, I think you're right... EG's modular above is $677 without any rack or power supply... plus I still have to build it.

I kind of knew it would cost more to get exactly a sherman, but yeah, making something close would have more flexibilty because I could connect it how I want, plus expand if I needed to.

GOod point about resale too. Sherman is looking pretty good now.

gooooooooood question haha

dont forget the midi/cv, or the multiples. multiples are cheap, midi/cv is not. i guess blacet doesnt make a midi/cv.

must haves:

multimode filter
envelope
vca
multiples

the i/o, while it would be nice, isn't 100% neccesary. you just need to amp stuff before it goes into the modular-however you do it should be adequate. for example, i have a steel string acoustic with active pickups that i can just 1/4" to 1/8" into my modular and it sounds great.

the lfo would be good, although a decent midi/cv unit would work decently well for any SLOW modulations. for faster stuff, midi just falls apart. so, filter fm would be out of the question through midi.

the vca can double as a ring mod of sorts (amplitude modulation) but then you lose it as a vca while youre doing that.

"Multiples"? What mean you ?

Yep, I remember you telling me this before astroid, about not needing the I/O... I'm with you.

I big plus with the sherman is the midi I think. What Blacet does sell is a chip for $16 that accepts midi clock and start/stop... have to figure out how to attach this I guess.

Multiples are just a series of sockets with the tips wired together and all the grounds shared.
Unbuffered multiples at least...

to be sure, the i/o unit would save you some headaches, but it can be worked around.

Right, I see.

So, what would you rather have, a modular with the filter, evelope, VCA, LFO, multiples and something else (like the improbability drive) for like $800 + ... or a sherman for like $700?

I'm thinking sherman.

buy the sherman then break it into pieces and patch it back together

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