Orlando, Florida, USA
I started writing music in mid to late 2002. My style has grown and changed a lot since then and i've dabbled in everything from IDM to Industrial to Ambient. I have two main projects at the moment - Mr. Panda, to house my general works. Music under this name tends to be more melodic, structured, and upbeat and pulls ideas from many different genres. Subbasement, to house my Dark-Ambient/Ambient-Noise style pieces which I didn't feel fit appropriately under my original project. I made the decision to split them so each style could be more focused as well as to make submitting demos, and that sort of thing, easier.
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* Alesis Micron
* Various cassette players/recorders
* Sample cassettes and tape loops
* Toy instruments
* Found and homemade percussion
* Windows 98
* Slackware Linux
* Fruity Loops
* Scream Tracker 3
* Schism Tracker
Electronic Music other: Down In June
Written October 12 2007 , Tags: Cover Bands, Death In June, Neofolk
Not sure if there are any other Death In June (http://www.deathinjune.net) fan's on here, but I thought I would point out this really good Death In June cover band I've been following for a month or two. Also, if you've never heard of Death In June before, I recommend looking them up too.
That's all. I'm planning on posting some new music soon.
Arent't death in june quite a nazi-band.
peacre from death in june said: "Detractors have accused Death In June of being neo-Nazi, fascist, and racist. Pearce himself has stated "At the start of the eighties, Tony and I were involved in radical left politics and beneath it history students. In search of a political view for the future we came across National Bolshevism which is closely connected with the SA hierarchy. People like Gregor Strasser and Ernst Röhm who were later known as 'second revolutionaries' attracted our attention." Protests have been staged and occasional performances cancelled due to these accusations.
Justification for the cancellations stem from strong aversions to the symbolism of Death In June coupled with an interpretation of select lyrics as containing deliberate Third Reich-era imagery and tropes. When questioned about his interest in the Third Reich, Pearce has responded: "I've an interest in all aspects of the Third Reich. It has had such a huge influence on the world, who could fail to be intrigued by it? However, I've still read more pages of Das Kapital than Mein Kampf!""
and before somebody starts mentioning the old stuff:
yes – he's homosexual. (so were some other nazi)
and yes they played in israel. (i don't see any evidence in that fact, that they aren't, but i gets mentioned every time somebody says d.i.j. are rightwing poeple)
i always thought death in june are a screamo band.
probably confused them with someone else though...
yghartsyrt said: "Arent't death in june quite a nazi-band."
Death In June's lyrics often contain fascist and totalitarian themes and imagery, but they are only fascists themselves in the same way that the members of slayer are satanists or the members of the sex pistols are anarchists, which is to say, not really at all. Death In June have collaborated in the past with people like Boyd Rice, who have had similar labels applied to them, which are once again, about 90% blown out of proportion. Anyone who has listened to Death In June, or Boyd Rice, or Current 93, or any other neofolk/noise band for more than a few tracks, or listened to an interview with one of the members, will know that the music and the lyrics are most certainly not advocating any kind of fascism, but simply stating that it is a part of global history that we don't want to sweep under the rug. They are songs about tragedy, not about fantasy.
But that being said, the intention of the post wasn't to provoke some kind of flame war over whether or not DI6 are fascists or not, but to get more people interested in what i consider to be a really great band.
i'm sorry. but i disagree.
sure it'S just stating the whole has a specific history, when using names like d.röhm in mailing lists. using the ss-skull. that's all just because of history.
bullshit. the dude is plain simple a nazi. and he's just too afraidf to admit it.
there are like a good number of great books about neofolk and right wing people (notsaying that everybody in the neofolk scene is right wing, though), a scene with quite a bif amount of nazis in them
but collaborating with der blutharsch for example which is definitively a naziproject is quite obvious to me.
and advocating for such a band isn't at all tollerable to me.
mrpanda – i definitively don't know you. and i don't wnat to step on your toe. maybe you just don't have spent enouigh time doing researches on nationsocialism and such topics.
but saying: i don't wanna discuss wether they are nazis or not – they are an awesome project is one of the most stupid things i read in quite a while
yghartsyrt said: "Arent't death in june quite a nazi-band."
will know that the music and the lyrics are most certainly not advocating any kind of fascism, but simply stating that it is a part of global history that we don't want to sweep under the rug. They are songs about tragedy, not about fantasy.
right, that would be performing in a kkk-outfit and singing about the old days and using slavery/racist-metaphors and saying these are songs of tragedy not fantasy.
If it's not tolerable to you, then ignore this post. Don't listen to the band.
DIJ are most certainly not nazis or anything of the sort. We've already established the use of fascist symbolism (totenkopf, runes, etc) is apart of the genre and does most definitely imply naziism and fascism. I'm not disputing that. Also implied in the lyrics is that hate is as universal an emotion as love, which is absolutely true, but those things do not immediately imply that hate is being promoted or condoned in any way. Once again, listen to the music before you try to attack it, or go read some of the lyrics, or if it offends you, then don't listen, but don't be so quick to attack it either.
first of all.
i listened to death in june.
second: i read a lot about death in june.
third: i wrote my final exham about stuff like that.
fourth: if you want to listen to it. fine with me
fifth: just ignoring stuff like that doesn't solve the problem called fascism.
sixth: i'm not quick to judge here. my assumptions are made up after thginking quite a lot about it. a thing you have chosen not to do. fine with me.
yog said: "and advocating for such a band isn't at all tollerable to me."
Assuming that its true that the band sympathises with neo nazi stuff, would you prefer that promotion of such a band be controlled/censored? (not a rhetorical question, i'm genuinely curious).
i think censorship doesn't help anything. one thing that does change something is just speaking up.
though it'll just end up in one of those stupid internet forum fights.
with „not tolerable“ i meant, this is the point, where just laugh about is long passed.
LOL, I'm laughing about it, mostly because you're "speaking up" to the wrong people. Yes, ignoring issues like this doesn't solve problems, but neither does flaming people on electronic music forums about things you really obviously haven't researched at all - especially people who aren't even racist or facist.
Here's some DIJ trivia for you: Tony Wakeford, one of the bands original members, was kicked out of the band for becoming too highly involved with right wing politics, and he hasn't been involved with it since then. Before DIJ was formed, It's members were apart of an anti-racist political punk band called Crisis ( link ). At some of their live events, DIJ has been known to dress in gorilla suits with swastika arm bands, amongst other things. I could provide numerous examples of lyrics by DIJ showing fascism in a negative light, but I won't because this is getting silly enough already.
yog said: "with „not tolerable“ i meant, this is the point, where just laugh about is long passed."
Right, understood. 'tolerate' is a slippery term.
Here's some DIJ trivia for you: Tony Wakeford, one of the bands original members, was kicked out of the band for becoming too highly involved with right wing politics, and he hasn't been involved with it since then. Before DIJ was formed, It's members were apart of an anti-racist political punk band called Crisis ( link
another good example for making your point cleare is the german guy called horst mahler. he was the lawyer defending the left-wing-terrorists from thr RAF in the 70s in germany. now is quite a big guy in the national party of germany.
and yeah. please explain me lyrics like rose cloud of holocaust
explain me how an antionazi guy is being able collaborating with a nazi like „der blutharsch“
btw i know all your dij-trivia. this is not something i'm argueing just out of a feeling
you know what.
this is the stupid internet.
i don't care.
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