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Not sure if there are any other Death In June (http://www.deathinjune.net) fan's on here, but I thought I would point out this really good Death In June cover band I've been following for a month or two. Also, if you've never heard of Death In June before, I recommend looking them up too.
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10/13/07
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mrpanda
I think perhaps you just take things too literally? When you start comparing musicians to terrorists, you lose all credibility with me. Sorry.
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yghartsyrt
ok. i mwas about to stop.
nobody is conmparing musicians to terrorists.
maybe you are not able to see how an example works
my example was just: even people who were realkly deeply into left-wing stuff in their younger ages can definitively turn right-wing. my was just a really prominent example.
btw. i do come from the country that killed those 6 millions jews. i do take these things quite serious – and yes literally.
have fun in your postmodern – anything goes life
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cbit
By creating an atmosphere where fascist aesthetics and philosophy are supported, Pearce and DIJ are drawing fascists in - and they do nothing to discourage this, despite being called on it for over a decade. At best this is irresponsible, at worst reprehensible.
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Seconded.
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yghartsyrt
seconded.
it always takes the wise and relaxed cbit to say what my anger fueld heart isn't able to tell appropriately
btw mrpanda – how about a statement on this interview answer from mr pearce?
"I prefer to suck, white, uncircumsised cocks of a certain age so I suppose that rules out quite a few races and religions in one huge act of sexualdiscrimination. However, that's natural selection for you. It follows on that, of course race is important to me!"
(source: interview with Dagobert's Revenge from cbits linkage
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mrpanda
And I live in a country that's currently attempting the same thing in the middle east. What's your point? I don't think where you're from gives a unique perspective on how terrible a place the world is.
Now...you're comparing a person who writes songs about tragedy to a person who helps create tragedy. Your example is multifaceted. You are taking it too literally because you cannot look beyond the content and see the intent of the music. For example, just because someone makes a painting of a war scene, does not immediately mean that they are advocating war. That doesn't necessarily imply that that are against it either, perhaps they are just trying to create an accurate and honest portrayal of war. You would think that with all the neo-nazi's there are in Germany, despite the complete ban on the display of the swastika (a symbol which in and of itself is just a symbol), that you would be able to tell the difference between someone who is sincerely fascist and someone who is describing it - especially when they're describing it negatively. Rose clouds of holocaust is a good example of lyrics that do just that, so thank you for mentioning that. The question isn't what Death In June's songs are about - that is obvious. The question is whether or not they are advocating what they are about - which they are not - so this is really a non-argument.
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yghartsyrt
read this interview and tell me honest, that he doesn't is at least a racists asshole or at least doesn't do nothing to not look like one. and bear in mind. that he's been interviewed by some right-wing guy.
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10/13/07
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mrpanda
A Libertarian-Communists website? That's a bit of an oxymoron isn't it?
Lol, this is getting very silly.
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yghartsyrt
again this shows, you have like zero clue about politics
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yghartsyrt
mrpanda said: "And I live in a country that's currently attempting the same thing in the middle east. What's your point? I don't think where you're from gives a unique perspective on how terrible a place the world is.
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lol. what kind of 2nd-grader are you?
read your history-books pal.
that war in irak is something compltely different with the national socialism that happen between 33 and 45 last century.
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mrpanda
This isn't about politics, it's about a cover band...
Libertarianism is the ideal of restricting government and communism is the ideal of putting everything under government control...how can you expect a valid, unbiased quote from a group like that. I hope you didn't use that site for your final exam paper.
As for the interview, it seems to me as though he's taking the piss. If he didn't take the piss, he'd be stuck all day trying to argue with people like yourself, i expect.
In anycase, i'm done with this discussion. A troll with a worldview - now i've seen everything. Sorry to waste the time of the people who ended up reading this.
10/13/07
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mrpanda
Death is death no matter what the justification.
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Zanf
mrpanda said: "This isn't about politics, it's about a cover band..."
...who have some questionable politics.
I wonder if the stance would be the same if it was a band singing about having sex with kids or animals?
mrpanda said: "You are taking it too literally because you cannot look beyond the content and see the intent of the music."
So it would seem a lot of other people do as well.
Its very dangerous territory to go flirting with the symbolism like they have. Some people just dont have the intelligence to see past it and its debatable whether mr peace actually wants you to. I would find it very hard to say he is being 'ironic' in what little I have seen/read about him and when people start using nazi adopted symbolism and talk about mysticism, etc, I cant help but roll my eyes.
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mrpanda
Zanf said: "I wonder if the stance would be the same if it was a band singing about having sex with kids or animals?"
You mean like Gwar? ;) Of course now people will probably start in with the "space monster sympathizer" flames.
The only purpose of my original post was to point people in the direction of a cover band, not even the band itself, because I thought they had a really good sound, and gave DIJ's music an entirely new layer of emotion.
I guess I assumed, wrongly, that the people on em411 would have the common sense to know that the message DIJ displays through their music is not the advocation of fascism, but a mirror of societies' ugliness. Through watching interviews with D. Pearce, you learn that this was a response to the bands involvement in the political punk scene and left-wing groups in it's early days. It's a social statement that left, right, or in between, these types of people are all essentially the same - hypocrites and liars.
So once again, Down In June, I think have a nice sound. If anyone would like comment about that, go for it, but please no more politics. The latter just makes all involved look silly.
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energygiant
DONT EVEN JOKE ABOUT THOSE DEMONIC SPACE MONSTERS!!!!!!
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mrpanda
energygiant said: "DONT EVEN JOKE ABOUT THOSE DEMONIC SPACE MONSTERS!!!!!!"
LOL. Thanks, I need that.
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