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if you have the time give it a read. he makes some very interesting statements about our current situation in the music industry. i have yet to really formulate any real opinion of my own about this piece but it sure as hell was interesting. you all are welcome to discuss, but more than anything i thought i might post it up in case you had not come across it yet.
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Written November 07 2007 , Tags: oink, mp3, record industry
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de-pressing.
very depressing. baahh to many words !!!1
i don't think its depressing at all. well, actually, to the part of me that wanted to be a famous rich rock star, its devastating.. but its seems exciting to the realistic me, to be a part of this transformation.
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didn't read it all.
but i recently had a similar discussion. some people at the xiu xiu message board wanted to rip and share an album from my label, so i asked them kindly NOT to do that. it all ended up in people insulting me for not giving away the releases for free... link (i'm "liger") luckily, jamie stewart from xiu xiu read it too and defended me and started insulting his own fans at the xiu xiu website;) link well, a nice read, thanks for sharing the link.
i have to say that what it's been said in the article is what i feel that cpuld be the way out... BUT it's adrressed to music lovers, and as far as i know, there are more music consumers than music lovers... the problem adressed here (as many of the other controversil issues that are going on nowadays in the modern world) is EDUCATION. no one talks about education of people... it seems like that only for the reason you can read and write, you have education. we're in 2007 and education should be really more than that. if people were educated so that to recognize what good music or a good artist is, just to know how to give space to those who need space, most of the things written in that article would come true in merely decades of time. until there will be people who uses music only becouse he or she wants not to think about anything instead of using it as way of getting in touch with personal and others people emotions we're stuck where we are. and i think the same applies to everything else: environment, politics, health, integration and so on. a little off topic i know, and arrogant too, i know. cheers astroboy said: "some people at the xiu xiu message board wanted to rip and share an album from my label, so i asked them kindly NOT to do that. it all ended up in people insulting me for not giving away the releases for free..." wow. "Z" is a proper dickhead. cbit said: " astroboy said: "some people at the xiu xiu message board wanted to rip and share an album from my label, so i asked them kindly NOT to do that. it all ended up in people insulting me for not giving away the releases for free..." wow. "Z" is a proper dickhead." Gawd. talk about a kid with a sense of entitlement. "Z" as a human gets thumbs down for me. yes .. thumbs down. Sweet jesus people are such fucking assholes..
I like the toothpaste comment btw.
to astroboy's experience over the xiu record.
wtf is wrong with people???!! im just seriously dumbfounded that "Z" would keep at it after you explain the situation and offer a cd with the record (since they obviously have a computer and rip software). and then the artists themselves he is supposed to be a fan of straigt up say if you like our music, buy our music or we won't be able to continue to make music. im not familar with xiu xiu's music but im tempted to buy the picture disc in retaliation to the absurdity of the situation. i think its especially cool the reasons you said they released it as a picture disc only. anyways i have a turntable. and computers. and itunes. and an ipod, actually i gave my ipod to a friend, but my wife has one. i buy some digital releases, but especially buy stuff that is released these days on wax. records are just awesome. i dont even have my stuff setup so that i could rip from wax to my itunes or ipod. sometimes i prefer to just put on a record and relax and listen to it. there is something different about it. so good for you for releasing stuffs on vinyl! LOL, people like "Z" are Wosweis
Waste of Space With Entitlement Issues thanks a lot for all your support.
good to know that some people out there share my opinion. <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 I totally do as well, man. It is so hard sometimes when you think about the future as a musician. I think those of us who have another skill are very lucky indeed.
 But you have my total support as well!i gotta sympathise with the label guy. but you really are up against a world of dick wads.
there must be some better way of effiecient wealth distribution. what about paying everytime you listen to something? fractions of a pence. like PRS but built in. that article is an interesting read and hits the nail on the head in a lot of ways but in some ways the topic is just water under the bridge already. as he says "it's fucking over" for the majors. too late and they are all douchebags for bringing lawsuits and they horribly missed the boat etc etc. it would be fascinating if the majors took 100% of their back catalogue and made EVERY band's release available on line in a service like OINK... but they are too stupid to realize that they could actually make money doing this.. even though by now they've created so much ill will towards themselves that they've been abandoned.
if hollywood could get it's head on straight they'd make an OINK-like service for movies right friggin now! make DVD/HD quality movies available for download already and people will pay for it. get in on it while it's in transition before it's too late. i guess netflix and itunes are sort of doing this but it seems like hollywood studios could take over their own destiny and DIY. Signup to comment
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