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Amen and the Golden Ratio
StoreTags: amen, breakbeat, gold, your mom
Author: umami on March 14 2008 Viewed 2164 times. 34 people liked this blog. You can rate it below if you haven't already.
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Well, I'll be damned.
I am fascinated by the golden ratio--I based my senior thesis around it. Seeing the Amen break laid out like this is remarkable--makes me wonder how many other breakbeats have a similar ratio, and if this is why breakbeat is such a driving force behind so much popular music. | |
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03/14/08
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jdg
LOL at the guy peaking out the door
03/14/08
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umami
lol. I'LL WORK ON IT.
damn u kids!
03/14/08
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TheNullSet
This seems a little too much like numerology for me, but I think I'll try and make a new break thats 'golden' on purpose and see if its the aesthetically Ideal one.
03/14/08
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atum
informative in a fun way. theres a bit of nice theroy in there too. things can be hard to explain in such a generic way but this worked.
03/15/08
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electrodan
lol at:
bleen said: "leaf him alone!"
good one bleener
03/15/08
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cbit
Excellent robot render!
Very sketchy golden ration article, the guys claims are pretty exagerrated. As Roger Roger said the audio he analized begins with a snare part way through the break, and is not even a rhythmically sensible length (here's the section he analised, looped: link ) so the claim that "the amen break" conforms to the golden ratio is bogus for a start. What the article shows is that a rhythmically arbitrary section of the break has peaks that approximately coincide with the divisions of the golden ratio.
It seems to me that the popularity of the Amen Break must have something to do with this appearance of the Golden Ratio in its timing structure.
stre-e-e-e-etch! it seems to me that the popularity of the amen break has primarily to do with the fact that it's super funky and that theres a special grit to the recording that makes it sound huge and massively energetic.
03/15/08
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mynameismud
OMFG OMFG my mind is blown
03/15/08
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j_chot
+1 for horseshit
+50 for the amen break being awesome.
someone around here has a virgin copy of the actual single...
03/16/08
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hello6am
cbit said: " it seems to me that the popularity of the amen break has primarily to do with the fact that it's super funky and that theres a special grit to the recording that makes it sound huge and massively energetic."
damn straight. after all, most uses of the break rearrange it beyond all original-golden-timing-recogniseability.
03/17/08
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jaysan
that is interesting. i know that the snare isnt the fist hit but it could be argued that it is the most prominent hit at the beggining.
also one of the things i like the most about the amen is the way all the hits actually sound not just the rythem. perhaps it would be better just to apply that theory just to that rythem unless there is some about the tonality and harmonics of the actually sound of the hits that is mathamically related.
03/17/08
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PYVND
I took a poop today that was a perfect circle. Still, I did not want to sample it.
Sorry, being stupid today.
03/17/08
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license
I still  this thread.
I'm with cbit on the actual break & why it rules, or at least is/was popular.
but the rampant nerddom implied and subsequently generated the original idea is the real meat of the coconut. delicious.
03/18/08
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tunalicker
the winston brothers . . . were they stoners?
also, the movie PI ends badly, so I try to enjoy the music, not over-math everything.
a whole music genre based on a groove snapshot. i don't get it. ok, maybe a little.
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