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You know those dreams you have sometimes that are like a big, epic, dramatic film? The ones where you wake up with the feeling that that dream was really "important?"
I have those every night now since I've started taking melatonin. Apparently there's a lot of data out there to testify that it's good for you, too.
Last night I walked out side in the rain and their were two bears shooting fireballs and lighting at king kong(who was rapping in a screwed voice "you can hear me fo ya see me I got king kongs in da trunk") The bears merged together to make a fetus in a womb and rolled toward King Kong. I grabbed my umbrella- it was blue and bent over funny like a helmet. It was making a square wave vibrato sound. I picked it up and underneath it screamed a big voice(the voice of the Mysterons) that said OPEN A BUSINESS as it picked me up and flung me up in the air to take me and show me a mall shop with a happy baker working in his own business.
And thats pretty much every night for the last 2 months. I typically remember them, and they have never been nightmares. It's totally awesome- you need some. | |
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03/16/08
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deltasleep
melatonin production is triggered by exposure to darkness. from my rudimentary understanding of the matter, there is a third(beyond rods and cones) cell within the retina that is responsible for detection of light and dark only. Apparently even the completely blind can still make this kind of detection.
Melatonin is a strong anti-oxidant. There is some research(albeit old- the first study of its kind was around WWII) to suggest that this might account for higher risk of cancer among those who work night shifts.
Not sleeping when exposed to dark may be preventing them from producing the antioxidant.
There's also a very interesting bit of research that showed the lifespan of lab rats being extended by almost 20% by melatonin.
I'm wary of the supplement market, extremely wary. But this sounds like something very interesting to me.
03/17/08
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Dizzygotheca
ive been fooling around with a few herbs and natural drugs lately.. one of them being 'Mugwort'
its said to help dreaming, lucid dreaming and astral projection...
i usually have very strong, complex dreams that always follow a storyline.. so i though i'd try the mugwort to reach a lucid dreaming state..
and while i found that it gave a little high when smoked, my dreams became very strong but muddy, and i found i would awake in the morning drowsy and feeling like i had not slept well... i would fall in and out of the same dream repeatedly, even for a few days in a row..
ill have to go and get some melatonin and give it a shot  : )
03/17/08
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deltasleep
melatonin is a hormone that your body produces naturally. mugwort is a toxic plant.
03/17/08
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license
I tried it with some valerian and B6 (not B complex) last night. I took it about half an hour before bed though, valerian about an hour and a half before. the valerian made me deliriously stupid, like when you're so tired that everything is funny. I didn't remember my dreams though and I had the hangover headache for about an hour after waking up. I'm not sure I dig the valerian or maybe I took too much. I haven't been yawning or feeling tired throughout the day at all since when I took the first melatonin on Friday. I think I'm going to go back down to 5mg though, and 500mg of valerian.
03/17/08
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license
also: yerba mate seems to get rid of the hangover very quickly. also it is a very strong anti-oxidant, and also has lots of B vitamins. I'm drinking it out of a gourd & bombilla, if that makes any difference (I think it's stronger this way). could also simply be the warm water.
03/17/08
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kidko
someone mentioned that if you take it too much your body will stop producing it... ?
03/17/08
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papergoose
deltasleep: regarding "stories" and whether they are natural or not.... Daniel Quinn talks a bit about this, and says that this is one of things that makes us human. The ability to see or imagine a story from something where there is no story, like a hunter seeing two sets of animal footprints and being able to figure out what happened from, or imagine where they went.
The thing that has given me the most vivid dreams, often disturbingly epic, far too intense to stick around in every night, was Wellbutrin, used to quit smoking or for anxiety in some people. I was glad to be rid of it though.
03/17/08
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cartesia
Its been a while since I read into this stuff, and I can't remember how much of this is proven and how much was just hypothesis,
but there are ideas that melatonin levels modify endogenous DMT levels (DMT being most likely produced in the pineal gland along with melatonin)
Also there are theories regarding dreams & levels of DMT found in the blood stream during dreamtime/deep sleep..
Rick Strassman wrote a book about it all that you ought to be able to find in pdf form somewhere.. He's basically the only guy who has ever done any large amount of research into the subject and I believe he started off examining Melatonin before coming to the conclusion that it was actually DMT causing the phenomenon he was interested in.
03/18/08
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Fredo
dude. Say no more. Melatonin here I come.
03/18/08
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adcBicycle
tried it the last 2 nights... ok dreams, better then usual... not mind blowing... more just made me restless... i'll keep trying though.
03/18/08
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tantan
adc - did it help you sleep? That's what I'm after moreso than crazy dreams, really. I take ambien for chronic insomnia which is not something I want to get used to!
03/19/08
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cartesia
I take ambien for chronic insomnia which is not something I want to get used to!
lol that stuff makes for the craziest adventures, you have to be sure to videotape it all to remember it though...
I once went exploring the botanic gardens at night with friends, felt like i was in lord of the rings...
then when i got home i thought there was a trilobite crawling around under my bed.
03/19/08
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tantan
tried melatonin last night, probably helped that I was deliriously sleepy to begin with after lousy sleep the night before, but I fell promptly asleep an hour after taking it. It had me feeling slightly, sort of pleasantly, stoned.
Dreams? Yeah, pteradactyls invaded Portland last night!
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