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Reznor vs. Radiohead: Innovation Smackdown
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Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails have been taking turns giving the music industry the finger. The British band made headlines last October for releasing In Rainbows without the support (read: control) of a record label, and Trent Reznor's group followed suit with last month's Ghosts I-IV.
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03/28/08
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bbwax
so, is it the general consensus that most of the members of this site will never ever make money from their music? let me rephrase that - see a profit of any sort from their music? as in, after cd printing, touring expenses, equipment purchases, etc. money free and clear after all that.
i really don't see it happening for 99% of us. or maybe i am just being pessimistic? what are your experiences?
i know, not that it really matters if you do it for the love of creating music. just curious if anyone still thinks they will be able to see a (even a tiny one) profit from their music making endeavors.
03/28/08
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bbwax
move over, emulsion.
*takes seat on couch, and grabs second playstation controller*
03/28/08
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emulsion
I'm sure that money or "success" or whatever isn't really anyone's goal on here or we wouldn't be making electronic music-- I'd be off playing in a "normal" band. But there is this sense I've had in the last few years with the music industry and this scene changing that you absolutely have to love it enough to continue making music even if you're taking a loss year after year. I sometimes get pretty down on it, but then I hear some spine-tingling record like the new Rod Modell or Claro Intelecto and I'm so inspired I just can't help but keep producing music...
I also have to say that I don't think that post of Arrington's shows much respect for musicians- it's a pretty brutal free-market analysis without much room for the emotional and creative benefits of music as art.
03/29/08
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khoral
I totally despised Radiohead's "trendy hobo" move, which I found quite distasteful towards real indie musicians who actually would kinda like to make a buck out of it - either you give away music for free, which is all right by me, or you sell it... but superstars who indulge into that kind of high profile internet mumbojumbo piss me off
I totally support Reznor's release, which I bought because I think it's ok to put a price on your work and it's more than ok than control the whole thing yourself
On the other hand I don't feel the urge to put a political stance in that... I'm rather tired of all this "indie is good, major is bad" pavlovian rambling
As far as I'm concerned, it's pretty much the same crap I hear from major and indie labels when I'm browsing new releases
Maybe it's a more polished crap when it comes from a major label, but as crap goes, you know...
Oh well, enough ranting, I know I'm a sad grumpy dusty man;)
03/29/08
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khoral
em411 won't let me edit my post but it should read of course : "it's more than ok TO control the whole thing yourself"
03/30/08
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elronhubbard
bbwax said: "getting the masses thinking ..."
don't be daft.
03/30/08
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flies
tantan said: " flies said: "plz. they both make pop music. how innovative can the be?"
dismissive and totally beside the point
but I certainly that "innovative" is not what I'd use to describe their release model, as indie artists have been doing it for years"
i'm dismissive because i think a the 'smackdown' here is a joke. Their innovation is just a blowing with the wind as far as i'm concerned.
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