cbit said: "I was wondering whether the inconsistencies might have to do with not using audio rate conections in some places where i should be doing. But i'm not sure about that."

p said: "

I think you are right and I think the culprit is the adsr. since it receives it's input max time (and so is at the mercy of the scheduler). I've gotten best results when the window is generated from the same signal as the one that plays back the sample (or in this case the sync signal from the third outlet of the groove~) so thebuffer and window are synced at audio rate. this wold probably involve buffer~ing the adsr data and reading it with wave~."

cbit said: "

Aha. yes that makes sense. So the audio rate 'position' output of the groove~ would be being fed to a wave~ which would be looking up amplitude values from a 'shape' in a buffer that had been predefined somehow. Have i got that right?

If i'm on the right track, do you know what would be a sensible way to get a simple window 'shape' into a buffer so that i can read back from it to control the amplitude of the grains that way?"