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Live Loop Genius (questions galore)
StoreTags: david ford, go to hell, songs for the r
Author: 11t1 on April 22 2008 Viewed 2421 times. 3 people liked this blog. You can rate it below if you haven't already.
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Has anybody seen this video yet: David Ford performing Go to Hell live in the studio?
David Ford's one of those guys that just blows my mind. This video was shot live in one continuous take. This ain't no pantomime.
Obviously, he's got someone triggering the looping for him so he can run from room to room here, but I've seen him do this onstage live all by himself and it was absolutely mesmerizing. Plus, it was a completely different arrangement, and it was only a couple of weeks before this video was done.
He's got an ear-piece in this to help him with syncing, but live he uses some sort of hardware based live looping thing without a metronome or anything. He just plays one part and loops that to use as the basis of his thing.
I'm going to see him again next month opening for Augustana and hopefully I can pick his brains a bit more about his gear.
So, if I were to try doing something similar but much humbler myself, where would I get started? I've got a fairly stable laptop with Ableton Live, but I'd need a new soundcard. I have Echo Indigo's I/O & DJ cards, but I'd need something that let me hear sync and allowed for 2 mono inputs (mic & gtr). Who's that beatbox guy who does it all with Live and some elaborate footswitch system?
Or are there hardware solutions that might be better?
What would you recommend for something like this?
On a side note, I saw a flamenco jazz guitarist (seriously) accompanying a singer yesterday, and he used a loop pedal to record his comping pattern for a whole chorus of a standard, and then he would solo over the big loop (sometimes close to a minute long at least). I found the style a little cheesy but the technology ingenious.
If the link above isn't working out for you, it's also on youtube: link
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04/22/08
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madeofoak
11t1: you could DEFINITELY do that with sooperlooper. set up 5 or 6 synced up and control them with a footpedal. using au lab you can adjust and rearrange all the seperate loopers easily. ableton can do this as well.
most affordable and easiest:
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04/22/08
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11t1
that doesn't look like the one kid beyond was using, though ;)
so, i'd need the midi translator program too, right?
how does the fcb1010 work? does it have several banks to it, or am i limited to 10 actions or so? it reminds me of the footswitch for my roland gp-8 multi-effects unit, which can do 128 different calls if memory serves, but uses a proprietary cable that won't fit into anything.
04/22/08
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Roshi
You are limited to 10 actions in a bank, 10 banks.
An action can be mapped to a midi note, sysex, CCs, etc. 4 at once (just to make things confusing).
I basically assigned the first bank to midi notes and use the automapping features of ableton to map them to buttons.
04/22/08
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11t1
so i'd basically have 100 buttons and two sliders at my feet (or is that 20 sliders?) - either way, that'd be a lot of looping power for one dude with a guitar and a mic.
04/23/08
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Roshi
Played with Sooperlooper a little last night - this is mostly uneffected cello - sorry for the crap quality: link
This starts out with 4 layers and I overdub on top a little (out of tune, but at least you get the idea).
04/23/08
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Roshi
Crap, sorry, wrong link: link
04/24/08
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11t1
cool, but too short
04/24/08
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Roshi
That's what they said about my frozen midget
04/24/08
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flies
nice work, roshi! prolly the best live looping i ever saw was burning star core, but that's whole other ball of wax...
04/24/08
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cbit
Roshi said: "That's what they said about my frozen midget"
reallol!
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