lgo said: "

hmmm... downtown does make sense, though, because the cars and bikes all do about the same. the lights are timed for bike speed, which means cars will usually end up doing the same average speed. next time you're on broadway and you get a red light, after it turns green, travel 15mph and play chicken with the rest of the lights. they'll all turn green right when you get to the intersection. wherever there is a right turn over a bike lane with bikes and cars going the same speed, there's an increased risk of a squished cyclist... even at low speeds. i've been very close to squished in the pearl.

not that every single right turn needs a box, but busier areas could use 'em.

ignatius said: "at any rate.. if the bike box saves one biker form getting into a car vs bike showdown then it's worth it."

timmo said: "

If only that were true...
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