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Portland Electronic Music Festival
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I have heard rumors about this, and have talked to different producers out there i know about this. I think a electronic music festival in portland would be really successful. I was wondering if anyone had any experience with festivals or had any input about making this possible. | |
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07/07/08
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mulletballet
I still need an excuse to work out a live show. Maybe such a gathering would be a good place for it...
07/07/08
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Roshi
I would say maybe do something STFU style, find a cafe/bar that will host for like 6 or 7 hours, and do something small with a number of interested folks, and then ramp up from there.
A large event takes a lot of planning - realistically, anyone willing to take that on?
07/07/08
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dylan
yeah i think it would be a good idea to start out small, lprof. you know how we are with all of the grand ideas (carsonlabs?) that always fall by the wayside once we realize how much of a commitment it becomes. something small and manageable, yet worthwhile would be good.
07/07/08
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poinp
Yeah. I think a more modest event featuring local talent would be very possible. In order to have a bigger festival in Portland, someone with deep pockets would need to be involved to lure in the big name acts. I think a smaller event with artists from around the community would be much more interesting myself.
07/08/08
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whitecar
I don't know Davey
07/08/08
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ignatius
audiodamage is putting together some kind of 'dork fest' or at least talking about it.
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07/08/08
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strategy
A major problem in Portland is that there are more producers of culture than consumers. Everyone wants to play and nobody wants to go to anything. And nobody has any money- it is supposedly "cheap" to live here, but wages are really low too, so it's not really cheap, it's less expensive than SF or Seattle but proportionally, it's just as hard to afford things, the scale is just smaller because the pay is shitty. And so you have too many creative people, with no real motivation to support peers, no audience that is pure audience (only audience that is peer producer/performer/DJ) and then nobody can afford to go out.
The reason Decibel works in Seattle is that you have a large number of people who make a lot of money, whose pasttime is going out to hear techno and such. It is pretty crazy going up there and noting that the number of people trying to "get up their music" in the "scene" is relatively low in any given group of show attendees. Lo and behold there are people who go to shows who don't also play at shows. Weird.
Strategy
07/08/08
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strategy
I guess what I'm saying is that a festival should not be done unless you can enlist as audience members, people in the public who aren't there just to forward their own artistic agenda. Maybe this is where PDX Pop Now succeeds, is that it is open and inviting to teenagers who buy CDs and mp3s of indie rock and whatever. There is automatic audience, who have time to kill and a vital interest in the bands, so you have audience members whose interest in being there is purely to hear bands and kick it with friends.
07/08/08
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strategy
One more comment and then I'll stop being such a buzzkill.
Last year my girlfriend produced a festival in the PSU park blocks that was completely free to the public, well publicized (except for the naive Mercury article that mentioned glow sticks and raves???), and featured the city's most forward thinking/advanced/edgy acts of all genres, playign through a badass sound system. Outdoors. Free!
And the only people who came were randomly passing by students and people in the bands.
If Portand cannot support a free world class festival, how can it support a bunch of nerdniks like me and you playing laptops and kaoss pads?
I agree with Roshi that you find a mid sized place that will do it for free and for fun for a one afternoon/evening span and that's it. Keep it small so that the disappointment levels (at public apathy) and financial outlay remain low.
Strategy
07/08/08
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mlbot
strategy said: " Lo and behold there are people who go to shows who don't also play at shows. Weird. "
LOL
totally spot on.
07/08/08
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Roshi
Definitely interesting posts, paul. I hadn't really thought about the differences between sea and pdx like that.
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ignatius
yeah.. PDX has a big shortage of punters. (where does beaverton party???) but then whenever some burning man act like bassnectar or glitchmob or whoever play at some party there's a JILLION fucking people there who only come out because there is some burning man connection. it's a fascinating situation and completely frustrating. i have no idea where these people are the rest of the week. I went to a party some friends played at that had a couple of the glitchmob guys on the bill. (i got comped thank god) it was a $20 cover! and it sold out!!!! in a huge venue. you couldn't fucking move in the place. yeah.. in portland.
so, maybe we all need to go to burningman and become infamous or "make it" or something and then people will come see us play. or maybe we all just suck and make music that .00000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the music listening population is interested in.
07/08/08
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mlbot
i wish you hadn't told me that story, I was blissfully ignorant of that unsavory factlet.
but, hey, people like what they are familiar with I guess.
07/08/08
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deltasleep
Playing only for other musicians has made a few people in jazz a little money. It can happen, lol.
I'd just like a chance to meet and see some of your live shows.
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strategy
There's nothing inherently bad about peeps playing for peeps, right. But, if someone has invested mass money, and worse yet, hope that their festival will break through, well-- that just sounds to me like grounds for potential heartbreak and/or a cataclysmic event that could result in someone otherwise fresh and idealistic ending up as cynical as me! Yikes
FWIW I think a festival of nerdniks with kaoss pads sounds rad.
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