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So, it's a recession, gas crisis, a couple of really lousy presidents, American car makers struggling to downsize their fleet fast enough to meet demand for high efficiency vehicles, etc. There are a lot of things going on that make me think my era is going to resemble the 1970's. Not the least of which is an economic recession and a strong public outcry to end a foreign war that's been going on too long. It makes sense that the hobbies and interests of depressed eras will have a lot in common, and that economic recession will have americans looking back to see what others have done for fun or money when there wasn't a lot of either around. It seems like people's style starts to get a little more ornate and rich- less of the clean square lines of the 1950s, 80s, and 90s and more of the embellished edges. People start to see things like music and art in a different light- it's hard to take music seriously when you have so many people with real, serious, problems. So I expect to see a lot more dancing, and a lot more sounds of disco and folk. Probably even some "ironic" take on using an actual string section for disco strings in music.
I'm not the only one who has had this thought on my mind for awhile now, apparently. I'm seeing a total resurgence in late 1970s obsession with the 1930s. I'm also seeing things like rollerderby, silver-era stereo refurbishing, movies about the 1930's, rollerskates(not blades), and knee socks popping back up(or is that Bremerton?). I am even seeing 1970s furniture(probably the worst thing about the 1970s) start to get bought up and repainted. I assume everybody else sees the bigger picture when they start a rollerderby league- but they may not. So what I'm wondering is: what are the musical signs of this stylistic change?
I know it's still 3-5 years off, but the rumblings are here now. And if you want to make a buck from it, I'd jump on board.
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deltasleep
I guess that the 70s saw a huge fad of 1930's culture because of movies about Bonnie and Clyde, that sort of gangster film. (mamamama ma baker, if you know what I mean) I feel that the 1970's could relate to the 1930s because of the economic hardship. 1970's gangster and blacksploitation films had a huge effect on the rap popular during the 1990s. So what I'm wondering is whether we'll relate to the 1970s because of their economic problems, you know? My wife writes mostly about cosmetics, but she had an interesting blog about it the other day that got me thinking. link
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frnortnr
oooh yay! disco!!!!!
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ignatius
well, disco shmisco... there was a lot of good funk in the 70's and R&B and jazz and some decent enough prog and what we now call classic rock.... it all sounded glorious too...recorded through nice consoles and on to tape. bring some of that artistry back and i'll be happy. remember dynamics in popular music?
but i don't want some kind of approximation of the 70's unless it has some heavy 90's influence. there's already some depeche mode cross bred w/devo and justice type bands turning up so now i wait for the psychedelic IDM with public enemy/paris vibe type thing to come along... please.
also, don't forget.. we are old. wondering what the future holds and how we will relate to it is an interesting thing considering pop culture is being shaped largely by a bunch of kids born after 1985. of course.. all the really cool shit comes from people who've been around a little longer ;) but we'll be in whatever world shows up so i guess we're relevant so long as we pay attention.
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frnortnr
see, i think it's more 80's- very nihilistic and focused on THE BEST PARTY EVER! cobrasnake, etc.
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ignatius
frnortnr said: "see, i think it's more 80's- very nihilistic and focused on THE BEST PARTY EVER! cobrasnake, etc."
i totally agree. the 80's comeback thing has gone on far far far too long and the nihilistic "best party ever" focus is soooooo true. but at least i'm starting to hear some other influences in the music that all these kids are going gaga over. so, perhaps that will continue and people will look back a little less at the 80's and get over that shit already... it's fucking boring and i'm so tired of hearing/seeing micro korgs. BOOORING.
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implexgrace
the 70s: disco, cocain and porno
and high profile serial killers!
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jdg
you couldn't do this in the 70s
link
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implexgrace
additionally, i'd like to see new synthesis, not re-hash. the 90s was newer.. newer electronic instruments, newer exotic drugs, newer ideas.. you have to observe what the mass is doing in order to see how it will affect the depths. there has bee/is a huge dubstep movement right now for instance. what i'm gathering from it is the "psychedelic" and "visceral" effects of early jungle.. but it is half the speed, suggesting to me that a lot of folks are looking to go slower, not faster. maybe a general sharp decline in people making spastic fast music. a lot of people i know have been smoking less weed too, suggesting to me that a lot of people are looking for clarity as well.
even dance music is slowing down.. i've heard some 118-120 bpm electro ish dance music but with more vintage synthesizers. no so hi-tech and modern. i can get a feel for the idea of dance music with folk influence.. that sounds alright, but a new element i think would be needed there to make it work.
idk, just speculating..
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implexgrace
also, burial... imperfect, naturalistic sounds, slower paced dance, introspective, somewhat melancholy... sounds about right
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ercoa
jdg that photo is amazing
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thehydrax
in australia the 70s was glam rock, abba and punk
apperently our former PM, Jonathon Winston Howard, has said our political landscape is like 1973 all over again, when the encumbent labor government lost by elections and some state and was swept from office 2 years later.
but here all i see is the 80s. and it seems every year corresponds with the one exactly 20 years before it, well fashion wise anyway. Polka dots finally came back this year. and the fiddle while rome burns, i'm alright jack attitude of most people seems to echo the yuppie aesthetic of the 80s
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elronhubbard
i would say gnarls barkley i probably the greatest "retro" sounding pop music these days.
as far as funk goes: outkast is directly influenced by Parliament, specifically andre3000.
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nagrom
Dance music here in Montreal is certainly slower than techno or trance, but the one trend here is POP CULTURE MASH-UP. Everybody's wearing 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, 30's whatever all put together, as long as it's OUTRAGEOUS ('MAGNIFIQUE'). Electro!
Otherwise there's minimal-house/techno as usual, and then house, (not so much) techno, and trance are playing out in their respective worlds.
There's a lot of 'Canadian Indie' still going on. Wolf Parade, Manitoba, Arcade Fire, Animal Collective etc... the whole "we live in the woods and make fun music". Reminds me of 70's photographs of post-hippies. Branching from this is a whole class of 70's style hipsters, riding 3-speed bicycles, frilly-edges, recycled furniture, everything from the thrift-store. Certainly not new, but quite prevalent.
Overall I get the sense that 'movements' are over. We've entered the era of micro-personalized-movements that will combine styles of the past with bits of 'new stuff'.
HOPE: I saw a shirt at Urban Outfitters a few days ago that said: "ACID HAUS" on it.
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nagrom
One thing I find interesting is that in the 70's there was a bicycle-boom because of gas prices. Now that gas prices are up again, another bicycle boom is hitting hard. All of the sudden it's fashionable to be riding 70's/80's road bike fixed-gear conversion. Every-day I see scores of fashionable women on vintage Raleigh 3-speeds. Even I just sold my 00's Bianchi and started riding a Pinarello fixed-gear!
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nagrom
HOPE: I saw a shirt at Urban Outfitters a few days ago that said: "ACID HAUS" on it.
I'm eagerly awaiting a Rave / Acid House revival. I want my own summer of love with E and smiley faces and baggy clothes. Actually, MASH-UP ELECTRO has been incorporating Acid / Rave elements, but it's superficial IMO. I like to go to hipster electro clubs fairly regularly and, sure, I hear a 303 here and there, but there's no PLUR on the dance floor. And "new-rave" is an utter disappointment.
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