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1970's Resurgence
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Author: deltasleep on July 09 2008
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--> So, it's a recession, gas crisis, a couple of really lousy presidents, American car makers struggling to downsize their fleet fast enough to meet demand for high efficiency vehicles, etc. There are a lot of things going on that make me think my era is going to resemble the 1970's. Not the least of which is an economic recession and a strong public outcry to end a foreign war that's been going on too long. It makes sense that the hobbies and interests of depressed eras will have a lot in common, and that economic recession will have americans looking back to see what others have done for fun or money when there wasn't a lot of either around. It seems like people's style starts to get a little more ornate and rich- less of the clean square lines of the 1950s, 80s, and 90s and more of the embellished edges. People start to see things like music and art in a different light- it's hard to take music seriously when you have so many people with real, serious, problems. So I expect to see a lot more dancing, and a lot more sounds of disco and folk. Probably even some "ironic" take on using an actual string section for disco strings in music.
I'm not the only one who has had this thought on my mind for awhile now, apparently. I'm seeing a total resurgence in late 1970s obsession with the 1930s. I'm also seeing things like rollerderby, silver-era stereo refurbishing, movies about the 1930's, rollerskates(not blades), and knee socks popping back up(or is that Bremerton?). I am even seeing 1970s furniture(probably the worst thing about the 1970s) start to get bought up and repainted. I assume everybody else sees the bigger picture when they start a rollerderby league- but they may not. So what I'm wondering is: what are the musical signs of this stylistic change?
I know it's still 3-5 years off, but the rumblings are here now. And if you want to make a buck from it, I'd jump on board.
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nagrom said: "Overall I get the sense that 'movements' are over. We've entered the era of micro-personalized-movements that will combine styles of the past with bits of 'new stuff'."


this sums up my thoughts almost perfectly.

one thing i noticed is the popularity of BEARDS. 24 year olds looking like 45 year olds. weird

"nagrom said: "Overall I get the sense that 'movements' are over. We've entered the era of micro-personalized-movements that will combine styles of the past with bits of 'new stuff'."

"nagrom said: Even I just sold my 00's Bianchi and started riding a Pinarello fixed-gear!"

Our "movements" have always been about reinventing and combining bits of the past with the present. Our obsession with past eras just seems to focus more on what era has something in common with us- not just on what era is x number of years ago. Not having any money and trying to do what you can with what you have can look like "living in the woods and making fun music" or it can look like "going green," but it's the same impulse and the same circumstances.

Disco inferno revival in full effect: link (live outdoor show on July 4th)

I really think that something's going to HAPPEN her in the UK soon, but i'm not sure what.
The economy's in crisis, every cunt's invested in flats to rent out so the market's saturated, but at the same time there's a desperate social housing problem, everyone hates their jobs, the NME looks like Smash Hits, disabled people will lose their benefits if they don't work (from october), the government's leaning to the right, the opposition is exactly the same as the government.... poverty, homelessness, unemployment are on the way.

The thing is, underground culture doesn't get time to become itself now. As soon as any trend comes along, it's there to buy off the peg in topshop. Everything is a comodity, especially anything slightly rebellious. So kids can't shock their parents anymore by dying their hair or wearing ripped or baggy or tight jeans. Pissy punk is all over the charts, or emo, etc. So no wonder kids get involved with gangs and carry knives: they want a bit of danger and rebellion. In the 50s the moral panic was all about the Teddy Boys knocking old ladies into the gutter and beating up, well, anyone. In the early 80s it was all about punks on street corners sniffing glue and beating up, well, anyone. Now wearing crepe soles and greasing your hair isn't shocking anymore, so you do something more extreme...

I think the Dubstep thing is really interesting, though it's starting to get a bit generic now sometimes (all wobbly basslines and shakers makes jack a dull boy). Does anyone else think it must be partly due to the rise in the use of Ketamine as a recreational drug? Wierd psychadelic sounds and a slow tempo, deep bass and a dark aura seem to fit with ket if you ask me...

Anyway, i think people are gonna start reprioritising things when they really feel the squeeze. When people can't afford to spend £4 a pint in a club they'll put on their own parties. Everyone will have to muck in together and music will evolve... people will appreciate art and beauty and danger and dirt all mixed together...something like that anyway...

fuck fashion- im going to make some techno techno bang bang

I remembered hearing somewhere that cultural lifespans are roughly about twenty years...
what you were inspired in the womb (inadvertantly) by.

I've always found this subject intriguing--

link

I think that cultures continue to evolve and sampling/synthesis technology will be along for the ride with it..

sure you can throw retro into the mix every now and again--
but when you are looking at that trough in the culture wave ask yourself bluntly:
what's next?
and be a catalyst.

..
culture does not dictate what you're reality is.

it's more like an agreed upon mass hallucination really..

ungoogleable is the new underground.
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minisystem said: "
nagrom said: "Overall I get the sense that 'movements' are over. We've entered the era of micro-personalized-movements that will combine styles of the past with bits of 'new stuff'."


this sums up my thoughts almost perfectly."


yes and it's quite a cyberpunk/sci-fi thing.

Man ... bitching about beards is my thing! MY THING!! ok. Shit ain't going anywhere .,. just backwards and watered down. It's already been happening for 10 years. It will just be this cycle for awhile.. so anyone 10 years ahead is just a "jaded elitist" and everyone else who doesn't know shit is "open-minded"

Being inverted and shy in the 90's had it's downs... but I still think I liked the world better when people got beatup for playing kickball. Anti-macho has become the new assertive prick in disguise.

Once again I see no change happening anytime soon... if I start to see some better looking suburban houses being built around me .. that we be a start... but it's been the same fucking design since 92.

I agree with nagrom somethin' fierce. the internet makes ideas spread so fast that they are replaced just as quickly as they arrive. plus, the internet is not foisted upon people like tv is, the selection of content is mind boggleing.

but ideas without a setting or culture..

Has anyone else felt lately like the Terminator or that other guy sent from the future? I kinda look at politics and fashion and kids and music and have a sense of what will happen next. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Also, hasn't it been 1979 since 2004?

The beard thing has been disconcerting development over the last few years. They look like the kids who were 3-6 years older than me when I was starting high school. My brother's scene, my brother's music. I totally rejected it and jumped on ... the whole 1979 thing. That year changed my life. (yes, I'm old t00 -- and I don't actually have a brother.)

I knew the whole retro thing was screwed when I watched a target commercial and the designers were describing their products as "Art Deco - but art deco like it was viewed in the 70's".

Way too meta

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