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So, it's a recession, gas crisis, a couple of really lousy presidents, American car makers struggling to downsize their fleet fast enough to meet demand for high efficiency vehicles, etc. There are a lot of things going on that make me think my era is going to resemble the 1970's. Not the least of which is an economic recession and a strong public outcry to end a foreign war that's been going on too long. It makes sense that the hobbies and interests of depressed eras will have a lot in common, and that economic recession will have americans looking back to see what others have done for fun or money when there wasn't a lot of either around. It seems like people's style starts to get a little more ornate and rich- less of the clean square lines of the 1950s, 80s, and 90s and more of the embellished edges. People start to see things like music and art in a different light- it's hard to take music seriously when you have so many people with real, serious, problems. So I expect to see a lot more dancing, and a lot more sounds of disco and folk. Probably even some "ironic" take on using an actual string section for disco strings in music.
I'm not the only one who has had this thought on my mind for awhile now, apparently. I'm seeing a total resurgence in late 1970s obsession with the 1930s. I'm also seeing things like rollerderby, silver-era stereo refurbishing, movies about the 1930's, rollerskates(not blades), and knee socks popping back up(or is that Bremerton?). I am even seeing 1970s furniture(probably the worst thing about the 1970s) start to get bought up and repainted. I assume everybody else sees the bigger picture when they start a rollerderby league- but they may not. So what I'm wondering is: what are the musical signs of this stylistic change?
I know it's still 3-5 years off, but the rumblings are here now. And if you want to make a buck from it, I'd jump on board.
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Roshi
My new style is whorish, but whorish like in the 2100s
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Otterfan
oxymoron said: "Also, hasn't it been 1979 since 2004?"
Pop culture-wise it started being 1978 in 2001 when the Strokes and hip-huggers took over. It has basically vacillated between 78 and 82 since then.
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mlbot
Roshi said: "My new style is whorish, but whorish like in the 2100s"
in 2100, all whores will look like Odd Job.
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astroid
it makes me feel utter repulsion that all our movements are about rehashing some past glory, and not boldly experimenting into the future. this is why i'm learning ancient greek and wearing only togas. opa!
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Roshi
mlbot said: " Roshi said: "My new style is whorish, but whorish like in the 2100s"
in 2100, all whores will look like Odd Job."
Damn straight. Future prostitutes unite!
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frnortnr
i cant' believe i hadn't tied the green and diy movements with the recession until now. durrrrr.
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ignatius
frnortnr said: "i cant' believe i hadn't tied the green and diy movements with the recession until now. durrrrr."
you mean canada is in a recession? isn't that kind of edgy for canada?
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ignatius
ignatius said: " frnortnr said: "i cant' believe i hadn't tied the green and diy movements with the recession until now. durrrrr."
you mean canada is in a recession? isn't that kind of edgy for canada?"
i'm just jealous of your healthcare system.
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frnortnr
no we aren't in one... they say we'll avoid it but who knows. but the movements of which i speak seem to be strong in amuricah, and we get your tv up here.
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celibacyclub
have you seen the bremaloes yet deltasleep? stonewashed jeans and high heels?
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deltasleep
The green and diy movements are really about peeling back some of those layers of convenience we were paying for and figuring out how to save a few bucks by exchanging your time for it. Essentially, these movements mean that our time as a whole has become worth a lot less than it was in the 1990's.
And 1930's like the 1970's looked at it is kind of where I see tons and tons of design going right now. I just can't buy into the "everybody has a micro movement in their pocket" theory, because frankly, most people don't give two shits about what they listen to or look at. They're not reading up on their reviews or listening to tons of music, they're gonna take what falls in their lap. So for a lot of America, that means they'll still be having whatever their tastemaker is having. I'm not interested in what art and communication majors will be listening to in their dorms, I'm talking about pop culture as a whole. I'm talking about pennystinker culture here. I'm hearing the same music from cars that I've heard for years now- I'm beginning to wonder how most people will deal with having less influential tastemakers, or if they will at all. There's no Ed Sullivan Show anymore, there's like 10000000 channels, and the web.
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ignatius
deltasleep said: "The green and diy movements are really about peeling back some of those layers of convenience we were paying for and figuring out how to save a few bucks by exchanging your time for it. Essentially, these movements mean that our time as a whole has become worth a lot less than it was in the 1990's."
exactly.. and the EPA agrees.
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from yahoo AP
EPA said: "It's not just the American dollar that's losing value. A government agency has decided that an American life isn't worth what it used to be.
The "value of a statistical life" is $6.9 million in today's dollars, the Environmental Protection Agency reckoned in May — a drop of nearly $1 million from just five years ago.
The Associated Press discovered the change after a review of cost-benefit analyses over more than a dozen years.
Though it may seem like a harmless bureaucratic recalculation, the devaluation has real consequences.
When drawing up regulations, government agencies put a value on human life and then weigh the costs versus the lifesaving benefits of a proposed rule. The less a life is worth to the government, the less the need for a regulation, such as tighter restrictions on pollution.
Consider, for example, a hypothetical regulation that costs $18 billion to enforce but will prevent 2,500 deaths. At $7.8 million per person (the old figure), the lifesaving benefits outweigh the costs. But at $6.9 million per person, the rule costs more than the lives it saves, so it may not be adopted."
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deltasleep
wow thanks ignatius- that's a really interesting article!
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nagrom
but ideas without a setting or culture..
Exactly. "Deterritorialization" as Deleuze and Guatarri coined it.
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nagrom
I'm not interested in what art and communication majors will be listening to in their dorms, I'm talking about pop culture as a whole.
See, I couldn't care less about "pop culture" -- I don't know a single person who listens to pop music. I'm a bit of an elitist in that sense. 'Culture is a phenomenon of the cultural elite'.
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