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Author: bb01 on July 29 2008 Viewed 1256 times. 13 people liked this blog. You can rate it below if you haven't already.
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This link link is one of the few sites I found that deal with this type of thing.
Some people have a very strong visual memory, a lot of people on here must have auditory memory.
For me, sounds have even more power to fuel memory than smell.
(olfactory memory? sounds like a high school band)
Unfortunately, it is sometimes as elusive as the former, youll always remember something, recognise it, but not always immediately know where to place it..
Which brings me to the synthmania link. Some of the more powerful sounds to me, are the ones I cant figure out. Maybe because i was too young the first time I heard, and/or I like keeping the wide eyed wonder about them.
Im thinking about Planet Rock, Hancocks rockit, Bomb the bass...
Maybe thats why I got into hiphop eventually, it sure is why I liked the sampleheavy, scratch amalgam record revival so much. (x-ecutionerz, z-trip, kid koala,...)
Falling in love with a type of sound, is what pushed me to sample stuff. Its like any collector's drive really, being afraid to lose something forever if not catalogged.
The items in the collection are of no importance afcourse, its the feeling (that they gave you the first time).
Even though Im really no fan of eighties music, I do like to hum the songs in the car. The other day I was swithing channels as I was riding between France and Belgium, and I wasnt able to stay with one channel for long because of it.
Im no fan of Seal (or Adamski) either but that brilliant song came on - you know the one. So many excellent sounds, used as if they were the parts to a traditional pop band. I wonder what sounds were used on that record, and were they just some presets? Anyone?
Reading posts on the usual sites on the net (music thing et al.) it seems that presets are much more used than you would think; Timbaland is making a hit with one right now. Our very own em411 featured a preset sound from the casio sk1 I think, which shocked me to find a really great song was based on it entirely.
Are there any more sites that deal with these things specifically?
Im not looking for OMG daft punk songs are really just remixes of forgotten disco - or Kanye and Duddy use a lot of 80ies stuff you know. Just some sites that realllllly explain songs. This is what disappoints me about wiki entries about songs - Im not interested in numbers and sales...
P.S. What strikes me about the synthmania page is that I tend to agree with the remarks on the genres Im more familiar with. Sure enough, James Brown has been sampled to death.
For the people that grew up on new wave, this must be different. Some synth sounds are going to be cliché as hell, where as Id still use them (in a new context)
Can sounds really become taboo, dead dead deader, sucked dry... or not.
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07/29/08
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eyesnine
thats's a great link.
i think that sounds are the raw material of music, like paint is to a painting. its like asking if a certain shade of blue can be cliche.
you can always take an incredibly cliche sound and figure out new ways to use it. i think you're right that its all about context.
07/29/08
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eyesnine
however, sound differs from paint in that it can be more distinctive. so, if a sound is distinctive enough i think it can become cliche, sometimes very fast.
the other factor is what everyone else is doing. if everyone else is using a certain sound, then yes, it is cliche. popularity comes into the equation here.
07/30/08
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thehydrax
very intriguing blog & a great site. I love the list of tracks halfway down; i'm going through each one...
A relatively obscure track that sampled "when the levy breaks" was "pearl" by Chapterhouse.
i can't see the big problem with using pre-sets. it's about how you use them, in a constructive or destructive way. and then sometimes a preset can be the exact sound you want. just run it through some effects and it's all good
I'm really loving guitar tones at the moment
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Unknownforce
I shall have a proper look/listen when i get home tonight
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bodo
a pic of Regi? LOL, never thought I would see that f*cker over here 
07/30/08
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bb01
link
just found another one thats buried in my bookmarks. (might as well just search the net again if you have over 50 subfolders)
this one is pretty interesting I think because the origin of the sound is explained very humble. I shows that if you have to make do, you make it work.
the second pic I put up is from the TheWho site. Its an anti - preset slogan really, isnt it? The first pic is from a belgian Tiesto-like wanker, famous for his great personality and one key-push stage presence.
07/30/08
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bb01
what bodo said basically
thank you thehydrax - for that one.
Im not worried about whether using presets is still creative,
Im more intrigued as to why some sounds have become so ubiquitous and / or recognizable.
Chicken or the egg probably.
Are they recognizable because they have so much character- or do they become engrained in our memory because of their (over) use.
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scu
I just love stuff like this!
Very nostalgic.
I remember reading an article with Gary Numan and him saying that he basically got sick of programming sounds and decided to just use presets. Which is why he is listed a few times for using the D-50 on his New Anger album.
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oxymoron
Cool, thanks. I still love those M1 sounds, Lore and Pole. They were my introduction to sample manipulation (albeit by the original sound designers) and the magic that happens when you do unexpected things with samples (play Pole and its soulmate Hammer very low...wow).
I think it has been posted before, but here's a link to an a paper on the famous "Orch5" sound: link
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bb01
scu said: "I remember reading an article with Gary Numan and him saying that he basically got sick of programming sounds and decided to just use presets. Which is why he is listed a few times for using the D-50 on his New Anger album."
I guess when the presets sound so incredibly interesting, one loses the urge to create some .
Maybe presets were better in those days.
I certainly feel that sounds thzat are programmed to be 'versatile', are bland as well.
07/30/08
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djugel
Ah .. remember that "rave piano" I'd been looking for years now? Found it last yearish. It's not a preset. It's from this track.
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The guy who made the track said it was a mix of a harpsicord and a sitar sound. I'm guess DX7 mkII ??
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RogerRoger
This site has reminded me how much I like D50 pads. There's a guy over at vintagesynth.com named Micke who could probably answer the unanswered sources of about 70% of these.
07/31/08
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bb01
oh my -djugel - thank you for brightening up my morning.
something about those tracks man
I always hated "house" as a youngster because in Belgium that meant cheesy hoover arpeggios and weak rhythms.
The stabs were probably mixed in with something with more sustain, or transposed?
RR - there is something to be said for walking encyclopedias, especially if youre friends with them.
Just a shame theres no more resources for these things, like these books link but online.
Kind of expensive if you only need to know one thing.
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