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is anybody here gay?
aside from psyingo and jdg of course
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Jetsom
livebunny said: "damnit what a stuid fucking thread...
none of us would be making stupid electronic music if it hadnt been for gay black men...
stupid fucking thread...
who cares where who sticks their cock in what...
sexuality is a whole lot more complicated than anyone could imagine...
ever read slaughter house 5
"there were 5 sexes on Tralfamadore, each of them performing a step necessary in the creation of a new individual...
...no fewer than 7 sexes on earth each essential to reproduction...
...There could be no Earthling babies without male homosexuals....
anyway fuck this i have better things to be doing with my time...
stupid fucking thread...
i cant believe im posting to it..."
Hello! :-)
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cbit
jetsom said: "It's the cleansing of language, and internally, no change has taken place. I wonder where that leads in a person, in a society.
Of course, there's no denying that there *is* some impact in simply jumping on the use of certain painful/socially unacceptable words. This 'social work' has, broadly speaking, limited people's casual tollerance of their own or others' offensive behaviour in public, making life nicer for people than it would otherwise have been."
i agree. i do think a change in thinking takes place when what's acceptable language is redefined, albeit maybe a subtle one.. like you said.
08/23/06
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Jetsom
cbit said: " jetsom said: "It's the cleansing of language, and internally, no change has taken place. I wonder where that leads in a person, in a society.
Of course, there's no denying that there *is* some impact in simply jumping on the use of certain painful/socially unacceptable words. This 'social work' has, broadly speaking, limited people's casual tollerance of their own or others' offensive behaviour in public, making life nicer for people than it would otherwise have been."
i agree. i do think a change in thinking takes place when what's acceptable language is redefined, albeit maybe a subtle one.. like you said."
but that's only part of the picture. i think you missed my point, or i didn't make it clear. or maybe you only agree with that aspect of my point. but i think you're cleverer(er) than that cbit, and i think you're framing what i said a bit...hmmm? ;-) trying to sneak it past my nose like some kind of ninja! i think you know that that's not what i'm trying to get at. c'mon...
08/23/06
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cbit
lol i'll say anything, totally distort your words and end it with 'like you said'.. so watch out!
(also: im not clevererer than that, i'm not trying to sneak ninjas past your nose. i think i misunderstood)
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Jetsom
cbit said: "lol i'll say anything, totally distort your words and end it with 'like you said'.. so watch out!"
you're unreal, you moron! you even quoted the 'contradictory' bit in with the bit you wanted. lol at you, you daft apeth of a ninja.
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cbit
jetsom said: "It's the cleansing of language, and internally, no change has taken place."
jetsom said: "Of course, there's no denying that there *is* some impact in simply jumping on the use of certain painful/socially unacceptable words [it has] limited people's casual tollerance of their own or others' offensive behaviour in public"
this is a contradiction.. thats the root of all teh evils! (also: its 'moran', get a brian!)
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Jetsom
yes but, oh i give up...you'll give me a headache, like normal (!). it's like trying to explain to the frog in the well that he can't jump across the sky (or something), you always end up screaming into a bucket.
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Jetsom
actually, me and cbit just agreed in private that we are actually singing from the same hymn sheet (sort of). what a pair of morans.
08/23/06
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livebunny
"actually, me and cbit just agreed in private that we are actually singing from the same hymn sheet (sort of). what a pair of morans."
i think you will find that its "morons"
haha
what a fucking pedant
08/23/06
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bsr
shut it moran.
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room
Jetsom said: " astroid said: " TecknoMan said: "At the same time, I find it annoying when people act like others shouldn't be allowed not to approve of gay people. It's a new kind of puritanism or piety ."
yeah it's annoying.
but then what's more annoying is when some nice people take over the country and start shipping all my nice gay neighbors into little walled off paradises with a fat grave in the center.
so there ya are 6 of one half dozen of the other. can we talk about my genitals now?"
I sympathise most with the above response to Tecknoman's thoughts.
Some more thoughts..
I question the blanket use of guilt/punishment in trying to teach people to not be prejudiced (the "should not").
It's obvious, looking around, that from that, a lot of people just learn to conceal thier prejudices. It's the cleansing of language, and internally, no change has taken place. I wonder where that leads in a person, in a society.
Of course, there's no denying that there *is* some impact in simply jumping on the use of certain painful/socially unacceptable words. This 'social work' has, broadly speaking, limited people's casual tollerance of their own or others' offensive behaviour in public, making life nicer for people than it would otherwise have been. etc etc.. I just don't see this as black and white as some of the views expressed here (or at least not at the time of writing!). There's a subtle shift of emphasis.
It makes me sad when people (myself included) become reactive because they believe in something, as it tends to send the conversation into a stand off; people feel defensive, communication breaks down, people go away feeling bad/defiant/indifferent. Seems sad and unneccesary.
Not sure if I've expressed myself well here. Lots to say, just tried to keep it short. Back to astroid's genitals..."
If we do not believe in freedom of speech for those we despise we do not believe in it at all.... - Noam Chomsky
08/23/06
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pooter
is it bad that i have impure thoughts about this guy?
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cbit
room said: "If we do not believe in freedom of speech for those we despise we do not believe in it at all.... - Noam Chomsky"
what's that in response to room?
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jdg
pooter said: "is it bad that i have impure thoughts about this guy?"
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mlbot
jdg, you are such a pedantophile
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