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Electronic Music other: Swedish Pirate Party makes it to the European Parliament
Store Written June 07 2009  
"The Swedish and German Pirate Parties are today celebrating their election success, after each gaining more than 200,000 votes in the 2009 European Parliament elections. This result marks the first ever elected seat for a Pirate Party, and fittingly comes from the piratpartiet, who has been awarded one MEP seat."

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I only wish that america had enough motivated young people who could steal the vote away from those who don't even understand the internet.
Oh great, now the world will be run by spoilt brats who demand that they get their movies for free. Just what we needed, eh
I agree with dach - we all need free movies.
I want free music too. And free software. And by god if I can't get it, I'm gonna change the law so I can.
When no one makes commercial software any more, I'll make that illegal.
we have too many choices. it's a fact. interest in music wanes when you can download any of it any time . at least if you are paying for it there's the investment of money, so chances are you won't download whole massive folders of... is it still called music or is a more appropriate term now data?
dach said: "Oh great, now the world will be run by spoilt brats who demand that they get their movies for free. Just what we needed, eh"


One seat is far from being world domination. Even if it was to happen, it'd be better to have politicians greedy about movies than about money/power.
Fredo said: " is it still called music or is a more appropriate term now data?"


i like that question. it opens up a really intersting discussion i think. for example, has music the same value to for teenage kids as it has for kids growing up in the 80s or 90s or before that. i doubt it.
Presently, it all comes down to data flow and capacity...
Fredo said: "we have too many choices. it's a fact. interest in music wanes when you can download any of it any time . at least if you are paying for it there's the investment of money, so chances are you won't download whole massive folders of... is it still called music or is a more appropriate term now data?"


its true. my inner anarchist would like to enjoy limitless downloads with no recourse in terms of my sense of value being distorted. how many confessionals of those giving up pirated software, music even have been read here on teh em411? granted there are albums that i have scored gratis that i will forever cherish, but a wholesale indifference to paying tribute to artists, well, makes you an asshole, i feel. i pay for good stuff when the price is right. i feel there is a kind of good karma in setting an appropriate value to things that i have created. this elevates my ability to produce something of higher quality next time.

money is a mind.
I think it is laughable how people try to justify their desire for money by equating their product w/ deserved profits.
Like oh well I deserve to get paid because I make product X.
The goal of a company under capitalism isnt' to make a product it is to make money and everything else be damned.
I have a real problem with these assumptions.
If it takes me pirating music and or software to knock these assholes off their high hats and make a better product then so be it.
And if they can't hack it in the new 21st century economy and recording industries go bankrupt...OH NOES SOMEONE CALL THE WAAAAAHHHMBULANCE!
it's not about money for me at all. It's about the value of music. Because it has become so easy to access a MASSSSSIVE amount of music recordings, whether for free download on a p2p, or at crap quality on youtube with an album cover slapped on for visuals, I believe the music itself has lost much of the value it once had. I learned long ago that I wasn't going to make a lot of money making music, and truly I never wanted to. It's always been about the experience of making the music and the joy of sharing it. (Also perhaps a solid portion of ego in having my music acknowledged as of value to others.) But I just want music to MEAN SOMETHING again!
Fredo said: "it's not about money for me at all. It's about the value of music. Because it has become so easy to access a MASSSSSIVE amount of music recordings, whether for free download on a p2p, or at crap quality on youtube with an album cover slapped on for visuals, I believe the music itself has lost much of the value it once had. I learned long ago that I wasn't going to make a lot of money making music, and truly I never wanted to. It's always been about the experience of making the music and the joy of sharing it. (Also perhaps a solid portion of ego in having my music acknowledged as of value to others.) But I just want music to MEAN SOMETHING again!"


+1 again
yghartsyrt said: "
has music the same value to for teenage kids as it has for kids growing up in the 80s or 90s or before that. i doubt it."


profound.
i think you can ask the question about 80s and 90s kids and find that the trend parallels the failing of the market model.

sadly... When access to everything happens, the stimulation of senses become a daily routine.

repetition of desirable sense without moderation, which leads to a type of cortex driving compulsion. One that is eventually justified in the mind of the actor. It becomes normal.

when you buy an album. you are ignoring a moderation reflex in your brain because it will cost you something.
when you pirate it, you are already looking for 30 more because you can.
just because you like to give away tracks that took you 2 days to make, with software you got for free last week, doesn't make you an anarchist.
it means you are enthusiastic about your hobby.

also... if you ask for a fee for an album that took you a year to make using equipment and skills you learned over a lifetime doesnt make you a fascist.
it means you are a musician and seek to make a living from it.

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