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I\'ve been making electronic music on my PCs and Macs since 1997, always striving to further develop the crafts of synthesis, electro acoustic instrumentation, and composition. I don\'t perform. Doing laptop shows isn\'t for me. In addition to the work under my own name, I create fake MTV/Justin Timberlake style music under the name Tommy Shane. Visit my homepage at link to download my latest release, and a bunch of old ones, for free.
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Soft: Logic Audio, Tassman, Reason, Sound Forge, Csound

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Electronic Music review: Headphones reviews from mixer’s perspective
Store Written August 07 2009 , Tags: Audeze, Cans, Headphones, JH-13, LCD-2
*Updated on 1/19/11*

I get the impression that a lot of people on this site do a big chunk of their work on headphones. I certainly do. Some people think it’s impossible to do stereo placement or EQ with them. Unless you can’t stand having stuff on or in your ears or you literally get nauseated from their use, like one EMer I know, I disagree. But my main purpose for writing this is to share what I’ve learned over the years as I’ve been obsessively seeking out headphone equipment. Here are mini reviews of most of the headphones I’ve owned or listened to, listed in order of increasing quality.

Sennheiser HD600. These were the first real headphones I ever had. By that, I mean they were nicer than what one could get at Best Buy. And I did mix on them for several years. But doing so was ultimately frustrating. My mixes tracked better than they did using crappy headphones, but there were always little surprises when I’d play them on nice speakers. The last straw was when I tried using them to mix the first track, “Cooksonia”, on my album “Lycopods”. I was determined to get each little note in its own spot in the stereo field. But the HD600s couldn’t articulate placement with the precision required. Trying to EQ with them was even worse. Small tweaks just got absorbed, making them impossible to hear. To top that off, they’re too slow and sloppy sounding to resolve texture with sufficient detail. I get why some audiophiles love them, but mixing with them is like painting in dim light.

Sony SA5000. These are a huge step up from the HD600. They’re detailed, and have great stereo field imaging. With these I was finally able to get the bell sounds in “Cooksonia” sensibly EQed. They also make for a nice lesson in burn in. During the first 200 to 300 hours of use, these things are piercingly sibilant. After that, they smooth out into something very nice. You’ll never have to worry about making an overly bright mix with these though, as they are on the bright side of neutral. The biggest problem I had with these was the bass. Like the rest of the spectrum, it’s tight and accurate, but there’s not enough of it. Just listening to music with them, it sounds fine. But my mixes started to get WAY too bass heavy. At about 35 Hz, they really start to roll off. So it’s hard to do much of anything in the super sub bass region with these. Also, they come with a crappy stock cable. But if you like their sound, you can get them recabled with two XLR ends instead of the standard quarter inch male end. Supposedly, that improves their performance dramatically. For the money these are terrific headphones. And as an extra bonus, they’re probably the most comfortable I’ve ever worn.

Modded Denon D5000. The stock version of these headphones sounds bad to me. They’re as veiled as the HD600s. Their bass goes deeper than I can hear, but it’s completely out of control. I suppose people who want lots of bass at any cost to the rest of the spectrum would enjoy them. But there’s a guy on Head-Fi.org who figured out a way to mod them into something very nice. One can do the modifications in a single night. Now he has his own little business (Lawtin Audio) where he sells Denons with all sorts of modifications. In any case, after the mods, they become at least as detailed as the SA5000. They’re bass is neutrally balanced, but still goes all the way down. You can feel a 15 Hz test tone rattle your head. They do have a little bump around 7 Khz, which can get old after a while. But it keeps you aware of any sibilance. The only drawback these have is an ever present coloration they impose. I think it’s brought on by the wood resonance chambers behind the drivers. It’s a very pleasant coloration, but hardly helpful during long mixing or listening sessions. But these are great headphones that I can definitely recommend for mixing use.

AKG K1000. These have been discontinued for several years now. But they’re still relatively easy to find used. They’re arguably not even headphones, but more like two little single driver speakers that sit outside of your head, held in place by pads that rest on your temple. The detail, precision, and sense of depth these things convey take them into a league beyond any of the previously mentioned headphones. A nice effect of their design is that the perceived sound surrounds your head rather than sits inside of it. They have one serious flaw though. Bass rolls off hard below 50 Hz. So sub bass is invisible with them. It simply isn’t possible to mix bass on these. But the rest of the spectrum is clear enough to compensate. They do also run a bright, making mixes a bit dark, but not problematically so. You really need a speaker amp to power these, which can get expensive, especially considering they’ll already set you back a grand.

Sennheiser HD800. For 1400 bucks, this 2009 model from Sennheiser better be great. And they are. I found them every bit as resolving as the K1000s, but more neutral, and without the bass roll off. They give outstanding performance across the entire audible spectrum. In the two hours I spent with them, I could find no flaw. I’ve seen some people claim they have a treble spike. But I didn’t hear it. Until I got the JH-13s, these were the best headphones I’d ever heard.

Jerry Harvey Audio JH-13 Pro. These 2009 inner ear monitors might be the holy grail of headphones. Before them, even the best earbuds were limited by a nasty high frequency roll off. None of them could get much over 16 Khz, which really bugged me. They weren’t able to perform at the level of great full sized headphones. But Jerry Harvey got around this by engineering the 13s with six drivers in each ear piece, making them surprisingly flat from 10Hz to 20 Khz. To order them, you go to an audiologist and get molds made of your ears. You send the molds to JH Audio. You wait two to four weeks. They bill you $1100. And then you get them in the mail. It’s worth the trouble, as these things outperform the HD800s and K1000s in almost every meaningful way. They’re super efficient, so big and expensive amps aren’t necessary. Their small size makes them extremely portable. I take them with me to the studio, to work, and even to bed for a pre sleep listen. It seems kind of crazy to be mixing on earbuds, but their performance justifies it. I suppose the in-head soundstage can get old after a while, but that’s an issue of presentation, not performance.

Audeze LCD-2. I first listened to these new planar magnetic headphones expecting them to, at best, perform at a JH-13 level. Surprisingly, they’re a clear step up in every way but portability. I can peer deeper into a mix than with any other headphone I’ve heard. The clarity with which they separate complex passages is remarkable. And this is true across the frequency spectrum. I expect that one would have to fork out serious cash on a top end Stax system to do better than these. They’re efficient for full sized headphones too. At $950, they’re a full $450 cheaper than the less good HD800s. So they represent a new bar for value as well.

What are your thoughts on headphones people? Is there a model you love working with?
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Srialdabaoth, if you're concerned about making bass heavy mixes, you might want to take a look at the offerings from Beyer and Ultrasone. They probably won't provide the clarity the SA5000s offer though. I do have a feeling that with an XLR termination, the SA5000s would have much more impactful bass. But alas, I can't find out now since I sold my pair. I can say though, that the difference between the quarter inch end and XLR end of my K1000s is huge. With XLR termination, their dynamics jump up to a level only very good speakers can match. It's easy for me to directly compare them since I have an XLR to quarter inch adapter.

Esem, I really don't care about industry standards because, for all types of gear, they are of very limited value to me. That's not meant as a criticism of industry standards, but rather a recognition that my music making goals are different. I don't believe that any of the headphones you listed will offer the imaging precision or detail that I want. There's a really valid argument that undetailed monitoring forces the mixer to really clean & separate tracks. The end result will sound better on the shitty speakers and ibuds that most people will listen with. If I were mixing pop records to sell to the masses, I'd be concerned about this. But I've become too much of sound snob to give a shit.

As far as the HD600 are concerned, Sennheiser may not market them as pro phones. But it was pro people who first recommended them to me in 2003. And I've seen too many posts on gearslutz claiming their neutrality and effectiveness as monitors. That's why I included them.

You may not like the presentation headphones have to offer esem. That's perfectly fine. It IS really surreal to have sound inside your head, as that doesn't happen anywhere in the real world. What bugs me is that a lot of people just assume that the almost 180 degree headphone soundstage is wrong, and the narrower speaker stage is right. Why? That's a completely subjective assessment. It's also relative to what you're listening to and for whom you're mixing.

RogerRoger, I used to use the MDR-V600s. They were also totally 2D and flat sounding, but pretty good for high frequency clarity and noise floor monitoring. They had absolutely no bass, which lead to some out of control mixes.
Excellent writeup.
Hey nicknotis, do you have a dedicated amp for your headphones? Which one? Have you tried one?
I have two DAC and amp setups. My studio system uses a Lavry DA10 dac running to a balanced Beta22 amp. Beta22s are arguable the best solid state amps available. But they’re kit only. I found a used one for a great price and picked it up. My mini setup is a Pico DAC and amp combo from a tiny company called Head-Amp. For 16 bit files, it’s as good a DAC as the Lavry. And the amp is amazingly good for something that fits into a small pocket. I take it to work with me every day.
I do a lot of my mixing on headphones as well. How about some recommendations in the mid-price range. I have the Beyerdynamic DT-770, Grado SR-80 (one side drops out often now) and Ultrasone iCans (one side doesn't work anymore). So basically the DT-770s are the only ones I use now. Although they have great bass, I still tend to boost the bass too much with them as well as the 4K range. I didn't do this as much with the SR-80 or the cheap iCan.

What would be a good compliment to the DT-770? Should I just purchase another SR-80 or SR-125 since mine no longer works properly? I have considered the AKG K-701 and Ultrasone HFI-700, but have not found a place I can actually listen to them. I have just gone by peoples' reviews.
AKG K240: Brutally honest.
nicknotis said: "I have two DAC and amp setups. My studio system uses a Lavry DA10 dac running to a balanced Beta22 amp. Beta22s are arguable the best solid state amps available. But they’re kit only. I found a used one for a great price and picked it up. My mini setup is a Pico DAC and amp combo from a tiny company called Head-Amp. For 16 bit files, it’s as good a DAC as the Lavry. And the amp is amazingly good for something that fits into a small pocket. I take it to work with me every day."


Ah, the Beta22 AMB is a funny guy. Funny as in nice, and does crazy amp designs. I Love higher-end Class-D speaker amps, I really really want to try a Class D headphone amp. I'm probably going to try to munge a Tripath chip to work into headphones sometime. Or an UcD circuit. Have you heard the Sabre / Sabre32 DAC's btw?

aligak said: "I do a lot of my mixing on headphones as well. How about some recommendations in the mid-price range. I have the Beyerdynamic DT-770, Grado SR-80 (one side drops out often now) and Ultrasone iCans (one side doesn't work anymore). So basically the DT-770s are the only ones I use now. Although they have great bass, I still tend to boost the bass too much with them as well as the 4K range. I didn't do this as much with the SR-80 or the cheap iCan.

What would be a good compliment to the DT-770? Should I just purchase another SR-80 or SR-125 since mine no longer works properly? I have considered the AKG K-701 and Ultrasone HFI-700, but have not found a place I can actually listen to them. I have just gone by peoples' reviews."


I'd try fixing the Grado, and get something completely different. The Grados are SO simple, if it is dropping out, it's probably just a solderable connection or something. These things are about as complicated as a box of r0cks.
I did hear the Sabre DAC when testing the HD800s. I wasn't focusing on it, but it seemed comparable to the Lavry black that I use.

As for neutral but reasonably priced headphones, I'd take Utofbu's word about the K240s. Before getting the K701s, I'd suggest looking into the K501s. A lot of people think they're more neutral. I've never compared the two though.

I wouldn't recommend mixing on Grados. Even the high end models supposedly have a bit of the smiley face thing going on. By that I mean hot bass and hot treble. That said, a friend of mine made some wonderful mixes with the SR-60s. He did have to tweak the treble a lot after hearing them elsewhere though.
Mmh, I got AKG K270S, Sennheiser HD25 and some middle of the road Shure in-ears. Those Jerry Harvey in-ears sound really impressive, but it'll be a while before I can think about upgrading my headphones... besides, I might be worried to take them with me on gigs, I can be rather sloppy with things like that. :p

However, I've had my Genelec for about 8 years now and finally feel comfortable mixing on them, so headphones are mostly used for stereo placement / fuckery and subbass..

Of all the headphones I know that I don't have i'd probably favour the Beyerdynamic DT770.. I like the AKG K270S, but it is relatively similar in sound to the Genelec (smooth bass, transparent treble), whereas the DT770 have a more colorful bass which is nice for "previewing" how it'd sound on a big system.
a long time ago I compared HD600s to HD535s which I bought - they were cheaper but the 600s did not handle transients at all. Must be for classical music listening and the 535s for "rock". Looks like the 535s got dropped from the line tho. They were my best sounding for mids and highs but the bass just wasn't there - open-ear design weakness, and the detachable cables started becoming intermittent where they connect - really annoying.

Didn't really mix anything on the 535s all the way through, but my Koss Porta-Pro's are always on. They have bass without the sticky seal of closed-ear designs. So I can almost get my bass levels right, and the rest doesn't seen too bad either. Then some A/B'ing with speakers/other headphones get me the last stretch.

But of course I would like something that does it all and when I turn on my speakers I go wow, instead of writing a tweak-list
Short article: link
They like the HD650's, Grado RS2 and AKG K701's

Newer article: link
Best for mixing: Beyerdynamic DT880 Pro (semi-closed-back), HD650 (open-back), Sony MDR7509 HD (closed-back)
Runner up: DT770

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