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cbit said: "
Theres a good old technique thats been around since the days that trackers rules the earth.

heres the modern day equivalent:

Youll need a hard or soft smappler with decent modulation options (like short circuit, or kontakt) and a sequencer that uses automation (which includes almost all seqs i think).

• chop up your break in recycle,soundforge etc or manually (one hit per file)
• load the chopped samples into your sampler
• sequence some drum pattern using the hits
• now for each hit you sequenced, replace that single hit with a string of very short midi notes, arranged end to end, up until the following hit begins
• find a way to automate 'sample start' position in your sampler
• draw automation curves as a way of 'manualy' controlling this homegrown kind of time stretch (eg a 'regular' hit would have a automation curve of a 45degree line.. a line sloping in the oposite direction will play the smapple backwards.. shallower lines result in more 'time stretching'.. a horizontal line will result in a single buzzing tone.

Ediot:

Alternatively, rather than drawing the rows of tiny midi clips, you can set all the samples to loop, with very small loops lengths, then use the automation to offset the loop start points. This is nice because you can also automate the loop length, smoothly modulating the size of the 'grains'... the disadvantage is that you on longer have precise control over the grain start points.

Since i didnt hear of a name for these techniques yet, i will precociously dub it Sample Offset Automation Graining
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monkvolcano said: "@cbit..

awesome, actually the next thing i was going try was doing this on each cell in the impulse. so now i've got it all layed out for me."

monkvolcano said: "ahh....... I was thinking about what you said AB, and I see why you say the loop feature is important. Af first I thought you could just retrigger the sample each time to substitute for the loops starting over.. BUT it would be even better if you were able to manipulate the loop length in realtime. this way you could smoothly change the length of each 'grain' over time.. instead of being confined to whatever you had sequenced.

does that make sense?"

monkvolcano said: "ahh....... I was thinking about what you said AB, and I see why you say the loop feature is important. Af first I thought you could just retrigger the sample each time to substitute for the loops starting over.. BUT it would be even better if you were able to manipulate the loop length in realtime. this way you could smoothly change the length of each 'grain' over time.. instead of being confined to whatever you had sequenced.

does that make sense?"