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Electronic Music discussion: Windows 7
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Written November 04 2009
So, I 'm using Windows 7 at work as a Sys. Admin and it's great. I noticed that M-Audio has beta drivers out for it, too. To be fair though, M-Audio's non-beta drivers suck about half the time...so I'd never use a beta from them.
So I thought I'd throw it out- who's using it? Are you able to use XP mode at all? Is there an ASIO4ALL?
Give me your feedback. My CPU usage is way under control because so much of the load appears to be farmed out to my graphics card, so I can run full Aero right now and still have really smooth visuals under heavy load. Not a blue screen yet, and only a couple admin-type things that have been a little headache.
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11/04/09
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EsromCole
I like it. Beats the shit outta Vista. I had Reason 4 running with asio4all and onboard audio without a hiccup. Axiom 25 didn't give me any trouble either, and latency was acceptable. No need of compatibility mode so far but this install is only a couple weeks old.
11/04/09
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eyesnine
I thought Vista drivers were the same as Windows 7?
It would be nice if there was a Soundflower/Jack as well as an ASIO4ALL.
11/04/09
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EsromCole
I'm with you on that one eyesnine. I thought 7 and Vista used the same driver architecture.
11/05/09
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dug
I looked at windows 7 xp mode at work (we do a lot of work with cameras that don't work with Vista), it works fine with old driverssoftware etc, but the experience of using software in the XP virtual machine is not great! you can connect to USB devices, but you have to do it manually, and USB devices that show up as HIC USB do NOT get passed through to the XP virtual machine.
Our experience has been that there is no real difference between Vista and 7 in terms of driverssoftware workingnot working, however i have to agree that windows 7 seems much better than vista in that it is less memory intensive, faster and feels like it's what windows Vista SHOULD have been in the first place! don't expect anything revolutionaryin windows 7 other than the XP virtual machine!
11/05/09
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dug
forgot to mention the XP mode is a seperate download (2 in fact as you need the thing that runs it), but at least it's free!
11/05/09
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Ochre
I'm really enjoying it too. Win 7 Pro 64, running Cubase 4 and Wavelab without any problems (though I'd prefer dedicated Win 7 drivers for my Audiofire, as I believe there are a couple of optimisation kinks to work out, but the older Vista drivers do work).
Some cool UI tips here btw: link
Just waiting for some more memory to arrive today, so Cubase can enjoy a full 3.5 GB (no more though, being 32bit, but at least Windows won't eat into it - an advantage for going 64bit even without 64bit Cubase).
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Ochre
I love Aero too -- so smooth!
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Leo
I have yet to install Windows 7 on my music machine. I've been using it as my media box since September, and I haven't had any problems. Really. What's more, it found all the drivers for that machine without me having to go out to Gigabyte's website. It has all just worked since day one. I run Ultimate 64-bit. I'll probably get Professional 64-bit for the music machine, because there is no need for the extras with Ultimate.
I'm hoping that it will work well for a DAW, as I would really like to move to 64-bit for everything.
11/05/09
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deltasleep
XP mode is unlikely to work on most machines- your motherboard has to support hardware virtualization. As far as drivers go, get ahold of a copy of the disc(doesn't have to register to do this) and insert it in a normal XP/Vista session and you can run a compatibility check. The 4-5 computers I have installed 7 on have only had a couple minor issues- like a device showing up in device manager in an errored state(with no apparent consequence).
Anybody running FLStudio and/or an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 or a Korg Minipad?
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dach
Just a question for those saying windows 7 is great, can you please let us know your experience or lack thereof with osx, linux, unix in general, and any other obscure OSes.. (BeOS, os/2, Workbench, and so on)
Also include if you actually paid money for it, as I find that people who have just bought a product tend to view it in a golden light
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deltasleep
I'm a sysadmin. I work on lots of OSes, and I don't pay for any of them.
OSes on my network:
Windows 7, XP, Vista, 2000, 98
Linux
FreeBSD
OSX.
Server 2000, 2003, 2008
I'm not especially partial to any one of them, but I think that 7 is a really welcome change after Vista. To drop an OS disc in and find that ALL of your hardware automatically detected is impressive to me.
11/06/09
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Leo
Pretty much a ditto of deltasleep. I am somewhat partial to OS X, but every OS has its ups and downs. Windows 7 found everything right away, and considering the vast amount of configurations out there, that's a feat. As a system admin, I run into a lot of OS types. I feel like Vista was the Me repeat, and 7 is like 2000. It isn't as intuitive as OS X, but it is miles ahead of Vista in terms of usability/stability. Also, management of windows and the taskbar is different. I think it is for the better, but time will tell. Also, I did not pay for it. I receive Microsoft's products as a function of my job.
11/08/09
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eyesnine
I will consider Windows 7 to be a refinement of Vista until I see ample evidence to the contrary. It seems like it's mostly the same technology, just wrapped in a different UI. It also seems to me that Vista an extended beta version of 7.
I'm an XP warrior, and will likely remain one until I see some essential new software or hardware that runs exclusively on 7/Vista. It'll take a while for me to adjust, I'm sure, and right now I'm really very happy with XP, at least in part because I know it so well. XP is the best OS I have ever used in terms of stability, performance, compatibility, and configurability. It feels like I'm slowly losing an old friend. 
11/09/09
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Leo
Over the weekend, I installed Windows 7 onto a new drive on my DAW machine. The 32-bit version ran just as I expected. A little better with the multi-core balancing than XP. The 64-bit version ran really well in terms of raw power in the OS, but the DAW software and plugins didn't like the 64-bit environment as well. To the point that I went back to my old drive and XP. Now, I still think Windows 7 is just great. However, until the DAW software catches up to the 64-bit stuff, I don't think my DAW will switch over.
11/09/09
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deltasleep
I totally understand, eyes. My DAW is staying XP for the time being because the DAW is a tool that serves a function. The thing that will finally make me move FLStudio into Win. 7 will be seeing solid multi-core and 64-bit support.
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